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Kingasdfg wrote: I don't think that has anything to do with Pucci's Stand tho. That's the bond allowing family members to sense each other that Jojo does all the time, like how Joseph and Jotaro could sense DIO, or Trish detecting Diavolo. Weather and Pucci are brothers. I might be misremembering the fight but I'm pretty sure that's the case.

No I was more referring to Made in Heaven being able to shape fate... because that's wrong. Made in Heaven can only alter the fate of people that Pucci has killed and replaced in the new universe, not just anyone he wants. Also, even if that where the case, fate has never been a hindrance for GER in the past.

The main problem is, as was pointed out already, the fight is a stalemate if Pucci never attacks. GER alone isn't fast enough to attack MiH. He could use RtZ, but it's unclear how much control Giorno has in that regard. He clearly can use it manually, but we're not sure to what extent. It's likely the only way he could use it in this fight would be its auto-protection against Pucci's attacks, but if Pucci never attacks, the fight is a stalemate.

Pucci doesn't have any means to put down GER, either. Direct attacks would work against him, and even if he could alter fate (which he can't do freely) GER isn't affected by that. So it's a stalemate unless Pucci attacks, whereupon it would then be a GER victory. well it has tho. ger controls casuality but ger only controls casuality to defend giorno and even then.giorno probably doesnt even know what rtz is as said by ger. ger doesnt control fate his ability is actually borderline casuality manip

also yeah no pucci says his super senses are described as being able to see things without seeing things and being able to see things before seeing them as said in heavy weather it has nothing to do with connection. and if you dont wanna take that he was also able to sense anasui

yeah pucci can alter fate in a small way he even confirms it during the made in heaven fight. also no ger only changes casuality if it harms giorno.ger isnt controled like a normal stand. and actually ger wouldnt denie the fate because of the fact that its beneficial to  both of them ger would have no reason to want to do it and actually its likely it would let it happen.

ger works in the same way that spoh worked. it has its own intelligence its own thought and its own perception it is able to effect things that work in the benefit of its user.