Board Thread:Manga Discussion/@comment-27659575-20171102233127/@comment-26912075-20171110032245

Firstly, calling me a casual is completely irrelevant to the argument and is nothing more than ad hominem. Art is not substance, it is that which supports substance. In effect, art can be used to great effect to show the emotion and personality of the characters of a specific series, such is true. However, art is not the character in itself. In order for art to achieve such an effect, it requires a character who is interesting in concept and effective in execution. Otherwise, the art is wasted on portraying such a character in the first place. I am not saying that art is not important in any way. What I am saying is that art is subservient to both character in such a way that it feels superficial. The last claim in your paragraph is unsubstantiated and cannot be deduced from a few sentences I have written on a discussion forum.

I can understand that Araki wants to polish his characters over telling a compelling story. There are good examples of these such as Cowboy Bebop. I am not particularly fond of One Piece beyond the first two arcs either, as I feel it becomes just like another fighting shonen that drags on while not giving meaningful development to its characters and not answering any question in order to squeeze out as much yen as possible. What you fail to prove in your diatribe is the quality of Jojo characters. They have interesting goals and nicely done relationships, however, they often feel one note and are often only described by their dimentia in the case of the episodic villains and by random quirks in the case of our secondary Heroes. I will not acknowledge my supposed insensitivities as, again, your claim is unsubstantiated.

Thirdly, all I ask for is examples.

Tl;dr: Just because you think there are elements that make JJBA fantastic doesn’t mean they actually exist.