Board Thread:Anime/Game Discussion/@comment-29981284-20161228210504/@comment-37565459-20190327004426

Boysmith2003 wrote: Red anvil wrote: Boysmith2003 wrote: Boysmith2003 wrote: CaessarC wrote: isnt the concept of hell is the eternal torture for grave sinners? Yes, which never made any sense to me. How the fuck do you recieve eternal punishment for being imperfect. The fuck?

Anyway, i'm here to bring up something. Y'all are saying Diovalo deserves it because of what Kira and DIO did. Firstly, that's guilt by association, which is not direct. Diovalo never DIRECTLY killed those people, so those aren't his actions. That means that he is absolved from those crimes because he never committed them. All he did was steal some arrows and maybe killed some dudes during his time in the lower ranks of Passione. Gangsters kill people. It's a fact of life. Besdies, being forced to kill or being ordered to kill is "dispassionate murder" in American law and is usually met with light sentences because they were forced to do it. So, what crimes has Diovalo actually committed? He stole some arrows and sold them to an old bitch. Doesn't really warrant eternal death loops, does it? Adding onto what i said, his attempted murder of his daughter and paranoia is also not counted because he has a disorder, which gets him an out via insanity. I don't know how you do stuff in America, but insanity makes a crime count less, it doesn't excuse it (in like, the rest of the world as far as i know, probably in the US too), and still requires the person to be locked up, i agree with the rest, but that part is just nonsense, also there weren't any cases of "dispassionate murder", people received orders to kill, but they also chose to join in in the first place. In America we have something called the insanity plea. It means that you are absolved from your crime because you are insane/have a mental disorder, and can not be held liable. Secondly, Diovalo's only real crime was petty thievery, a very light crime by the standard of American law, meaing regarldess of Diovalo's paranoia disorder and Dissocative Identity Disorder (multiple personalities) he'd at most gotten a light slap on the wrist, maybe a month or two in prison. He's not getting much either way. Him being a gangster is excluded because at the time of the Arrow theft, Passione hadn't been established. Also yes, dispassionate murder is being forced or ordered to kill by an enviorment or other party, also called the Numenbourg Defense, because it was famously used during the conviction and execution of Nazis. "Orders are orders" in their words. You make it sound like you wouldn't join your country to battle the side trying to wipe your country out/destroy it's prosperity.