Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26873003-20150819140137/@comment-26873003-20150821082419

It is clearly shown that the aging process is VERY slow if one has even some weak form of cooling, be it wind or water (I still wonder why you haven't replied to my arguments about wind and water), ant thus, Prosciutto has to get in point blank range with the user to be able to greatly accelerate the process, and in turn, leave himself open for an attack. Any kind of long range Stand counters Grateful Dead.

That is true, reflective surfaces are a common thing, I thought about it more and I will move Man in the Mirror to Tier 3.

You don't understand how Chariot Requiem works. It only made Stands attack their users when they tried to grab the arrow, because it was semi sentient, and wanted only to protect the arrow. If it was under Polnareff's control, he could make other Stands turn against their users at his own will.

As I said, Soft Machine is not the best stealth Stand out there. Also you need to understand that Tier 4 Stands are not weak by any means. They are just more situational than the others, for example Baby Face, it is a very strong Stand, being able to instakill people, it is just very situational, since female host is needed to create this Stand, and proper education is also required.

Just because Sale was a total idiot, and his overconfidence made him fail to stop the bullets in time, it doesn't mean that Kraft Work cannot stop objects/projectiles, the moment they touch the skin. King Crimson's/Star Platinum's fists, Aeorsmith's bullets, Soft Machine's dagger before it would be able to make a hole and deflate, whatever that is, it will be stopped. It requires concentration from the user, but it doesn't change the fact that it's so powerful.

As I said before, any Stand fast enough to dodge/deflect bullets, can beat Aerosmith, doesn't matter if it's close, medium or long ranged.

After checking the statistical speed of a handgun bullet (around 1200 kph) and comparing it to the speed of Star Platinum's fists (around 350 kph), we can safely assume that Star Platinum would be powerless against White Album, unless Jotaro used time stop. Silver Chariot's speed however, is much much more, being able to move so fast that it seemed to create clones of itself during Part 3 battle with Avdol. So I would say it could easily break Ghiaccio's armor. More, I don't understand why you think that Metallica is a bad example. It is clear how it works, it just manipulates iron in people's bodies via magnetic field. Moreover, the colder the temperature, the stronger the magnetic field, so Ghiaccio would be instagibbed. However, you are probably right about the fact that the suit could block Green Day's mold, but still it is never stated if the mold gets blocked by all kind of suit Stands, or only by Oasis for some reason.

After thorough analysis of what certain Stands can or cannot do, I have come to following conclusions:

Man in the Mirror moves to Tier 3, White Album moves to Tier 2.