Board Thread:Manga Discussion/@comment-34005353-20180130135414/@comment-4959537-20180315164621

Vizorus69 wrote:

LEONOX233 wrote: Zodazzle wrote: LEONOX233 wrote:

There's no way he could use Hayato as a human shield, BTD is protecting Hayato and only him, Crazy D could just take him away from Kira with no harm and Kira wouldn't be able do a thing, also Josuke bumped on Hayato and held him in place to give back his hat in the previous loop and that didn't activate BTD protection, what proves that there's some nuance to avoid BTD being activated anytime someone touches Hayato. He was talking about projectiles, not close-up. And yes, Hayato could be a human shield. BTD is protecting him, so all projectiles would be stopped. Kira is strong enough to pick him up and restrict his movements while running away. However, he might not get far due to the weight he would be sustaining from holding Hayato. Even so, how a little kid could act as a full shield to a grown man running, in such a short range? We aren't talking about a normal hostage scenario, stands have superhuman reflexes and precision, a skilled shooter can shoot the head of a criminal holding someone, a stand like Crazy D can do that faster and with more precision, plus the fact of Hayato being a kid leaves a ton of other open spots where he could shoot and not harm Hayato in the slightest.

And not forget good old Okuyasu is there too, The Hand can swipe Hayato away like he did with Stray Cat and Kira wouldn't be able to do a thing.

Also, Kira knows that the rest of the gang is nearby, so buying time isn't really a option as Jotaro and Rohan are around the corner and he don't know if or when BTD will get them, so the best option is to quickly eliminate Josuke and Okuyasu, as he didn't see them as threats at first. But even so, would Josuke actually risk killing an innoncent man? As fo Bite the Dust, as soon as the others show up, just before Josuke informs them, Kira could move BTD to Josuke. Well, just look the time Josuke handled Aqua Necklace with his mom, you could even say that would be natural for him to be a little reckless with Hayato in this scenario, as Josuke could just heal him latter, but Aqua N is a stand so he had to act fast to contain him, but Kira didn't have a stand to back him up, so I think Josuke would think another way other than "I will make a hole in this small kid."

But this human shield argument is a moot point, the second Kira got punched to the ground, he was already in range and Crazy D wouldn't let him escape, so if Kira were to do this, he should have done it as Josuke as running up to him and also he had Okuyasu backing him up, which powers revolves around teleporting things and would make this hostage scenario impossible to pull off, also Kira is well aware about those powers as he says so the first time he uses an air bomb on Okuyasu.

And BTD can only be put on non-stand users, Hayato says so, but the bigger proof is that Kira didn't put BTD on Okuyasu when he was setting his trap for Josuke, remember that he used BTD to revive Hayato in the first time, what means that the carrier doesn't need to be conscious or even alive for BTD to work.

I forgot something on my last comment about Josuke don't being able to recognize Kosaku as Kira, at the very least, Josuke would conclude that Kosaku is another stand user that Yoshihiro created in order to protect Kira, as most of them knew the name Yoshikage Kira.