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MSEAdvanced wrote: Zodazzle wrote:

MSEAdvanced wrote: Zodazzle wrote:

MSEAdvanced wrote: Zodazzle wrote: Part 7 is the alternate version of parts 1, 2, and 3. Jojolion is part 4, and possibly 5. The next part is 6, which correlates to part 9 in that case. Also, Johnny made up with his broken legs with Tusk. And the entire reason I believe Araki chose to give Johnny broken legs was to symbolize that this story would be about growth. It literally says that as one of the first quotes in Steel Ball Run, "This story relates how I got up on my feet. Not in the physical term, but how I went from adolescence to adulthood". Tell me that isn't symbolic. Just because Jojo is bizarre doesn't mean Araki implements things randomly. He wouldn't choose a standless character because not only do stands not disappear randomly, but it would be hard to gather attention. Stands were done to keep the series going, freshen it up. A standless character doesn't freshen anything, we already have seen characters that are standless do stuff (Hayato, like you said). And lastly, Gold Experience was busted as hell, so much so that Araki probably purposely wrote out it's abilities to make things stable. He didn't beat Diavolo by being creative, he beat Diavolo through Gold Experience Requiem. Which is automatic. But think about it, Giorno would have never made it to Diavolo unless he was creative with life giver like if he was an Okuyasu type character his stand would have been really held back and he would need a lot more help and when he got Gold Experience Requiem he didn't need to be creative anymore because of how busted it was and we've seen stands time and time again even more so then non stand users so the audience would look at them like "how can he plan to face a stand user?" And then he does and everyone's blown away but all in all nothing is impossible for Araki That's the thing. There's a level of strength that needs to be controlled. The reason why a non-stand user could have faith lost is because we have had SO many broken stands, that there is no way a non-stand user could fight. All the stands would be way too dumbed down for interest to be kept. Weak stands are arguably the most interesting stands, but that's because they inspire their user to defeat stronger ones through creativity. A non-stand user doesn't have any ability to begin with, so he would be steamrolled throughout the part. Araki is hopefully smart enough to not do that. The story would show how he would develop even when there are broken stands around and he doesn't have one, it would also show how he would be creative and learn how to deal with them and then he would surprise those with no faith in him with his surprising amount of aptitude in dealing with stands. Sure he would struggle a bit at the beginning but it would leave room for him to grow and illustrate his transformation from the beginning of the series and with him facing strong or broken opponents it would show you don't need to be as strong or as broken as them to succeed. Once again, that's the problem. He's too weak to take them on. No level of creativity could do it. Unless Araki dumbed all the enemies down (which ruins the plot and I bet he knows that by now), it's impossible. You would basically write yourself into a corner. I mean look at weaker characters in the past and how they pulled through, Jonathan had hamon and fought vampires and had a tough time but pulled through and that was balanced then Joseph also had hamon but fought the pillar men who were stronger than vampires on a time limit and pulled through using wit and creativity, and now look at ultimate Kars who was on God Mode but was still defeated by quick thinking(and asspulls that arm thing was way out there) and determination.(wow it's been a while since we started this you're good at replying) They pulled through with wit of course. But that was because they used their abilities in a creative way. A powerless person only has the surroundings, which would really have to be specifically done so they somehow worked out for the character. And that would make it even worse, meaning all fights came down to luck. Any good writer doesn't make luck a consistent winning factor unless the story revolves around luck-based things like card games. A standless user is essentially a complete waste of character and would be a liability to any group.