Talk:Gold Experience Requiem/@comment-24120087-20160802045035/@comment-32285408-20170615000519

Fine, The World wouldn't be able to beat GER.

Though, Alessi and his stand Sethan would be able to. Simply taking out one's stand doesn't mean that the stand can be put down to 0. GER has only been shown turning things to zero that it was in direct contact with. It was in direct contact King Crimson's ability, King Crimson's ability was set to zero. It was in direct contact with Diavolo, Diavolo was set to zero. It was in direct contact with a pillar, the pillars ability to stand was set to zero (or maybe it just punched the pillar very hard). The way Sethan works is that once it would come in direct contact with GER is when its ability activates. Therefore, GER would become GE. Of course Alessi probably wouldn't be able to beat Giorno but he would beat GER, temporaly. Plus he derives pleasure from other people's pain so both will to fight and being a sadist would have to be set to zero.

With Jail House Lock, as long as 3 things are put into Giorno's and his stand's Short term memory, they would be unable to realize Jail House Lock as a threat and thus be unable to defeat the user. It would probably be, "that is an enemy stand, that is the user, I wonder what the ability is, I should beat her up, wait, is that an enemy stand, I should beat it up, is that the user, I wonder what the ability is" or at the very least. "An enemy stand, There is the user, I should go beat it up, I will turn it to zero, wait, what is that, that must be an enemy stand..." this would continue to happen, making a strange stalemate until something of interest happened.

With Chariot Requiem, if you touch it, it touches you. And as I showed that GER probably needs to touch stuff to turn it to zero, Chariot Requiem would touch it back, thus turning it to zero. Thereforef, both Chariot and GER would be turned to zero.

Also, D4C-Love Train tripping on a rock example was just something that could happen. It would be more likely that Giorno tripping on a rock would make GER look over or something just enough that Valentine would use D4C or a gun to shoot and kill Giorno. Otherwise (and I know this is a cop out), couldn't Valentine bring out some stand user that had the perfect counter to turn to zero to kill Giorno, as Valentine would be between light and light.