Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28702329-20181215114648/@comment-44086794-20191011073044

Kingasdfg wrote: KarsMarsBars wrote: Remember that Diavolos ability is skipping time. He just skips or “erases” past the time stop. It doesn’t matter if time is stopped while Diavolo is already in his time erase. If we include the fact that things phase through him, then Diavolo would technically be in his own little “pocket dimension” that exists outside the normal flow of time. That's not really how King Crimson is shown to work, though. Actions that occur during erased time still have normal consequences unless they directly affect Diavolo. The time stop is universal, and therefore not something that directly attacks Diavolo, so it should still activate just fine. Actually, in what sense absolute? As in takes the crown as the most powerful process that can't be affected? I mean, MiH wouldn't agree? And while I agree that time stop would activate, those actions within time stop would be DIRECTLY at DIAVOLO which should be erased then.

And while it's a sensible attitude "no time would be erased because there is no time to be erased" those were still actions within a bubble of their own. I guess then it would be what is time in this sense. If time as in time then yeah, ts unshields Diavolo and he's ded. If it's time as in linear sequence of events then DIO can do whatever, it doesn't matter in the end because KC is "it didn't happen" (actually, now even this is debatable because head tilt, WHY DID HE DO THAT?!). It's just basically what takes precedence I guess.

And how is time erasure not as absolute as time stop? Time will be skipped for everyone, there wouldn't be another Jotaro that's randomly "whoops, I'm unaffected lol". It's Diavolo and Diavolo alone? (and now that I said it, wouldn't Jotaro moving in stopped time make it not absolute (and yes, I agree that this is a total nonsense, in the perfect world DIO would have won and we would live in the world filled with even more memes))

P.S. let me clarify this. MiH can't move within stopped time, absolutely. But Jotaro says time stop is shortened (even though it's the same 5s???). If it's be all end all ability it shouldn't be affected by anything? MiH speeds up time, time that doesn't exist within stopped time, yet time stop is shortened (or is it shortened because time stop does something to Jotaro, not the ability itself (but then, all alive organisms were fine, weren't they, the kept going on as if nothing happened?)?)