Board Thread:Fanmade/@comment-34013154-20181112223306/@comment-34882417-20181204212729

Tusk act 5 wrote: Infant&#039;s Isopod wrote: bECAUTusk act 5 wrote: Tusk act 5 wrote: Infant&#039;s Isopod wrote: Tusk act 5 wrote: S.Cond Bomb wrote: Tusk act 5 wrote: Zodazzle wrote: ...What? Are you seriously comparing speeds by their visible punches in the manga (that are also over a decade apart) rather than their actual stats? Star Platinum has an A, and Tusk Act 4 has a B. Literally look at the stats and there you go. Besides, Star Platinum has been said to exceed the speed of light, and Tusk Act 4 can't apply to that. So it's definite that Star Platinum is faster. Stop digging for evidence of speed in the manga, which keep in mind aren't in motion. keep in mind stand stats are infamously confusing and make no sense. and also, i dare you to bring up as many VALID points as i have during this argument. disproving one point doesnt mean the rest of my evidence is faulty. and again, ONE FUCKING HIT. thats all it takes. i dont know how many times it needs to be said, but ONE FUCKING HIT IS ALL IT TAKES TO WIN. i dont even need any more evidence than that, but the valid points ive brought up simply reinforce my argument. and again, if the stats are supposedly the deciding factor, then AN A IN DURBILITY should be able to let tusk tank one or two hits before HE RENDERS JOTARO USELESS WITH ONE FUCKING HIT.to be fair, youve brought up some good points. but that one peice of evidence is the strongest brought up in this argument, and while you are focusing on disproving one or two points for every five i bring up, i actually have concrete evidence to back up my point. name one reason why jotaro wouldnt try and tank one or two hits to land an ora rush. >Stand stats infamously confusing

But they're not...? The only offender that I can think of would be Destructive Power, but that only represents physical strenght.

>One hit is all it takes to win

Tusk still has to land that hit. There's also the fact that Johnny himself cannot move in stopped time, meaning SP is gonna fuck him up.

>A in durability

The World had an A in durability too, and Star Platinum fucked it up on multiple occasions. I doubt Tusk is gonna fare much better.

>One reason why Jotaro wouldn't tank one or two hits to do an ora rush

He could, but that doesn't mean he should. Also, if he immediately opens with time-stop, he won't even need to take that Tusk hit. 1: fair, i suppose. but there is no set number for each stat. i mean, star platinum, hanged man, and silver chariot all have an A in speed, but have different speeds. and weather report (the stand) has a B in speed, and it can literally summon the fastest winds ever recorded. compare that wind speed vs highway star's B in speed, topping at 60 km/hour

2: yeah, but tusk will land a hit if jotaro opens with an ora ora. and again, tusk can move in timestop, which will definitely catch jotaro off-guard

3: yeah, but that took about like 4 episodes for the world to get beaten, and hits were landed on both sides. and tusk is the only one with super spin punches

4: its his go-to move, and tusk and the bullets can move in timestop. and jotaro will often react to projectiles by catching them, aibeit activating super spin Jesus christ, this argument is going on way too long and I'm not in the mood to write another paragraph, so...

You can't land a hit if you're being repeatedly punched by something that is easily capable of shattering diamonds.

Tusk can't hit Star Platinum if it's being beaten to death the moment it enters its range. There's literally no getting past that. Star Platinum was able to punch in several large holes in The World, another A-Durability Stand. There is no reason Tusk, a Stand much slower and actually less responsive (i.e it doesn't follow Johnny's commands as precisely as Star Platinum does, since it mainly just indiscriminately kills things, even Johnny himself if he gets caught in the crossfire) than both Star Platinum AND The World, and I guarantee you Star Platinum won't try to go for a clash of barrages once it realizes Tusk is far slower than it (which is literally the moment Tusk tries to throw a punch) and will just bludgeon Tusk without effort.

also shit i wrote a paragrpah anyway i kinda get it. star platinum can break diamonds. BUT.

1: again, it took a lot of punches to beat the world. the world and tusk act 4 both have an A in durability

2: all you need is contact. not just with his fists, it can be the bullet, tusks fist, tusks armour, anything tusk also, tusk is pretty fucking fast. name one reason tusk is like a fucking snail compared to other punch ghosts like star platinum.

and also, why WOULDNT star platium go for an oraora if tusk is slower? jotaro knows that star platinum is gonna land more hits in. and also, johnny wont be anywhere near tusk, because once jotaro is in range of tusk, but not vice versa, he will fire a bullet around 25 horse lengths away, being nowhere near his own stand. Because Jotaro has no reason to let the enemy land hits in when he can just beat the shit out of them? He didn't exactly let Killer Queen punch him while he was borderline mutilating Kira. Also, Tusk has never been shown to be anywhere near as fast as Star Platinum. It wasn't able to protect Johnny from any of the projectiles Diego threw at him, not even any of the bullets he fired.

Also, we've said this time and time again. There is no evidence that any physical contact with Tusk will initiate the infinite spin. That is complete conjecture and you can't use it in an argument unless you have any substantial proof that confirms it. Even if you consider it a headcanon, you can't use that at all. that is incorrect. just look at how funny valentine or johnny himself got trapped in super spin: via contact with tusk or tusk's bullet. that in itself should easily seal the deal in this fight, but that one piece of concrete evidence that makes the outcome obvious doesnt seem to be enough. so to prove my point more, the only reason jotaro never got hit by kira during the final fight was because jotaro stopped time, but since tusk can move in timestop, thats rendered null. That wasn't Tusk itself, that was the Infinite Rotation. It stuck onto Johnny because it was an Infinite Spin-infected object, which transfered it onto him. They literally said that touching an object or person that is afflicted with the Infinite Rotation will transfer it onto you.