Board Thread:Fanmade/@comment-31731691-20190816114648/@comment-39718735-20200604143032

Kingasdfg wrote: Gold Experience Requiem does not rewind time. RtZ and rewinding time are totally different things. Time rewind would not work against King Crimson because it straight up erases time. You couldn't rewind back into time that doesn't exist. Moreover, GER can still speak and interact with Diavolo during this erased time period. I've watched the scene in the anime and read the scene in the manga and never saw King Crimson's ability end before GER activated. The animation effect may play but that means very little. Literally in that same episode, David Productions changed canon from the manga when Diavolo stepped on the scorpion, which didn't happen in the manga and ignores Gold Experience's damage reflection ability. So perhaps it's just artistic licence? The scorpion thing is sorta different for some reasons. Do you think GER would allow Diavolo to have such a petty and insignificant death when he planned to give him an infinite death? Cause if that were to be the case (and if GER would have control over the mirroring damage ability) he may decide not to instakill Diavolo right there (perhaps the anime wasn't that wrong, imagine it as GER saying "you're not getting out of this that easily"). As I see it, GER could rewind the erased time since it was going to be the cause of Diavolo killing Giorno. Visual effect or not I'd say it's basically the same. I'm not saying if GER would activate it wouldn't rewind time stop to give an example, but that perhaps GER or Giorno could be damaged during time-stop (a bit of a controversial idea, I mean The World might have a slight chance, since unless both GER and Giorno are totally destroyed in stopped time The World's not winning at all. After all it's said in part 6 that The World is the "strongest, most invincible" ability even when GER already exists).

I don't know why you brought up Mandom, though. Ringo gets to pick and choose who remembers between time rewinds and who doesn't. Johnny and Gyro did every time, but Hot Pants only remembered the first few times, when looping though the forest. Mandom is a time-related Stand, and not at all comparable to GER. GER is not a time-related Stand, it's a causality related Stand. The standard rules of time and space clearly don't apply to it. Whether Mandom could rewind KC is kinda uncertain: one erases time and goes forward but the other goes backwards - if Diavolo erases 10 seconds Mandom may go inbetween those seconds cancelling KC or go 16 seconds (counting the 10 erased) back in time, it's unknown how a match between them would end (Mandom may fuck up Epitaph for example). Ringo allowing a target to remember or not would be the same. Only Diavolo could remember what was going on since time had been erased for the others. I'm not saying it works exactly like Mandom or BtD, just that it has control of time when a cause activates it.

I'm not arguing that GER is necessarily more powerful than Tusk ACT 4, just that it's hard to tell. Just as GER is technically acausal, you could argue the infinite rotation is also "technically" acausal. GER has better feats than Tusk ACT 4, but it's really hard to say for sure who would win.

Additionally, I don't believe Giorno had GER during the events of Stone Ocean, since it seems like he lost it after the Requiem arrow fell off its head when it beat Diavolo. That's probably why he didn't use GER to stop Pucci, and why Giorno decided not to destroy the arrow at the end of Vento Aureo. If GER was permanent, then there'd be no need for him to keep the arrow around. I don't think Tusk 4 is stronger than GER: I guess it'd lose 9 times out of 10 (Tusk can be dodged, can be stopped before even shooting), while I do think for example that GER doesn't have an absolute power, otherwise part 6 would've never ever finished like it did, be either by inherent limits of his ability or for it getting disabled (I don't think so, perhaps GER was indeed still active and he dropped the arrow cause it was no longer necessary. Anyway GER getting instantly disabled after a fight is a great weakness (what if someone else attacks Giorno and he doesn't manage to stab GE with the arrow again?)). I guess no one doubts that if Giorno would've arrived at Cape Canaveral Pucci would've surely lost.