Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28702329-20181215114648/@comment-43770364-20191010153334

Obdegobdeglobdegor wrote: BronzeSeiya wrote: @KarsMarsBars you're right about the blood not affecting people until time resumes, I actually forgot about that. About interacting with objects, I feel like it's still in the realm of inconsistency because if he can interact with objects then Narancia's bullets should've hit him since they're technically inanimate objects too... @Obdegobdeglobdegor I definitely can't, it's the weirdest part of King Crimson.

As I've said before, I feel like the key to understanding the winner of this matchup is to first determine whether Diavolo is invincible during KC's ability as it turns the tides completely in one way or the other. But isn't it irrelevant anyway? If I'm interpreting this right, let's say KC activates and in 1s Diavolo moves from his spot and then ZA WARUDO activates. Diavolo will be unable to move, time erasure will be stopped (actually, it's flow will but progress won't) and DIO would be still aiming at nothing because Diavolo moved. Za Warudo will stop and then Diavolo would be able to move 9s and maybe realise that DIO did something somehow but is unaware of what's going on (because that's the whole point. Everybody is unaware of what they're doing). Then he can just waltz behind him and Kekyoin him (now will that kill him is debatable).

But let's say DIO is aware what's going on during his 10 seconds and MUDAs Diavolo during his time stop. Time erasure isn't stopped, correct? so any damage wouldn't happen either way. God, (personally) this Mista things just throws a wrench in somewhat straightforward situation.

(Am I overconvoluting this?)

(Ahahaha your guess is as good as mine, I wouldn't say you're the one convoluting this, it's just what happens when pseudo philosophy and pseudo physics meet)

Well, the reason why I'm saying Diavolo's invincibility plays a huge role is this: Diavolo and Dio meet, Diavolo does what he always does and uses Epitaph to see that he gets a fist straight in his gut, so he uses King Crimson. Now, when King Crimson activates his ability, everything that Epitaph predicted has to happen it's just that normally while the action is happening, Diavolo moves out of harm and positions himself behind his opponent. Once KC's ability stops, Diavolo's opponent still did whatever Epitaph predicted them doing, just they'll have no idea of how he got to whatever pose, position ecc they're in. Now, if King Crimson activates his ability against Dio, The World's Time Stop will automatically be activated because that's how Diavolo gets killed in Epitaph's prediction meaning that in that moment, Diavolo cannot move and Dio is free to donut him. Once Dio donut's Diavolo, time will resume and from Diavolo's perspective he has a fist in his guts he wouldn't have the time to move out of Dio's attack because Dio's attack happened in stopped time, meaning once time resumes there is no brief moment for Diavolo to dodge. This is where Diavolo's invincibility comes in play. If Diavolo is invincible then Dio's attack will just go through him but if he isn't invincible, time skip or not there's still a fist through him. That's my reasoning basically