Board Thread:Fanmade/@comment-34013154-20181112223306/@comment-34882417-20190304211300

Nabukun wrote: I don't think there would be any valid counterargument to my point anyway. Unless you want Johnny to be like, 10 centimeters away from Jotaro, or you think Jotaro would seriously stop time for seemingly innocuous projectiles he sees coming. The fact that Jotaro would catch the nail bullet with his bare fingers only proves that it wouldn't work after the initial shot. From his experience with Ratt, and knowing he won't be healed by Josuke, the moment he begins to feel the infinite spin's effects he'd just cut off his fingers, if not his entire hand to prevent it from spreading. At that point, he'll use timestop to avoid the nail bullets and close the distance between himself and Johnny, where he'd probably avoid a direct fist-fight with Tusk suspecting that being struck by it would have the same effects as the nail bullets, and instead target Johnny directly (which would be incredibly easy as long as he can use timestop to get around Tusk), then punch him off his horse and beat him unconscious.

Here's why that's basically how that'd go down:

1. Tusk is slow. People like to glorify its physical capabilities, but it's only considered as powerful as it is because of the infinite rotation. Otherwise, it's only average. It's also partially automatic due to how powerful the rotation is, and doesn't follow Johnny's commands to a T. Hell, it can even afflict him with the rotation.

2. Johnny's nails can't ricochet like Ratt's, and he only has 10 to fire per fight. Though he can use wormholes to shoot from different angles, that would be much easier for Jotaro to predict (since he'd see Johnny sticking his arm in a hole in the ground, which would be suspicious as hell) than Ratt firing a dart at an odd angle to catch him off-guard. I should add that Johnny's nails are the ONLY chance he has (which screws him over more, considering he has a limited reserve), because Tusk Act 4 doesn't hold a candle to Star Platinum in a direct fist-fight.

3. This is more of a side-note if anything because of a misconception, but Tusk can't 'move' in stopped time. It can shift subtly and look around, but only by a few centimeters. It won't attack Jotaro if he tries to walk around it, though it might at least try to graze him with its finger to afflict him with the rotation. I doubt Jotaro would let that happen, though.

P.S. Everyone's acting like Star Platinum's power is glorified. I keep seeing people in discussions talking about it like its only strength is its timestop, but it's not. Timestop is the icing on the cake - Star Platinum's real strength is the fact that it's an absolute unit. It's objectively the physically strongest, fastest and most durable humanoid Stand (if we ignore abilities like Made in Heaven's universal acceleration). Nothing can beat it in a fair fist-fight. It's just broken beyond belief in that regard.