Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28702329-20181215114648/@comment-43456281-20190819140218

Patfv wrote: he can't attack anyone direct, because by doing so he would be interfiring with the fate he forecasted, and as himself said, he can't change epitaph predictions, he can't interfere with anyone direct, but he can do things to his advantage, like he says in the video "once time resumes, you will not be able to count those droplets of blood", the blood is not affecting polnareff unconsious acts directly, he will only suffer the effect of the blood in his eyes after time skip ends, also just like his stand stats says, only the living (a being with a destiny, fated to happen) will be affected by his time skip and act uncousciously, that's why he dodged mista bullets, and thats why he could clean his room, he doesn't remove himself from reality, he is just the only one who can freely move during that period, he is still there, he is even affected by sticky fingers punch inside the erased time, that aerosmith fight is just bullshit and considering it is almost the same to say that star platinum has infinite range because he was able to get all those things for jotaro inside the prison, even thought it's stated that his range is of only 2 meters, one thing contradicts the other I can understand your persepective, though in all honesty, King Crimson's ability just works.

I'm not saying that as a meme, it just works. King Crimson's ability is actually pretty straightforward, it's just that events in the anime/manga are completely different to what its ability is stated to be.

Let's take the "Can King Crimson interact with erased time?" question that's been haunting everyone for years. From what I can tell, here's the proofs from what's been given to this question:

1.) Yes -Trish's hand being cut off (So he can affect living beings) -Hotel room Cleaning -Cleaning the Fortune Teller's Body and severing his hand (Again, living beings) -Tying up his fake while he donuts Abbachio -Killing Narancia -Moving Mista (Trish) closer to Diavolo (Bruno)

2.) No -He could've killed the Gang-Stars, but didn't -Every time he attacked, he exited Time Skip beforehand. -He doesn't use King Crimson's ability to do a lot of things.

Now, let's do another question: "Is King Crimson invincible in Skipped Time?"

1.) Yes -Dodging Aerosmith's bullets

2.) No -The things you listed down.

In all honesty, I can imagine that Diavolo is actually invincible in Skipped Time, it's just that he's too arrogant/prideful to even look like he was touched by anything. Him dodging the atacks he's already invincible too would actually make sense for his character, although admittedly that's just a headcanon, so that doesn't really hold ground.

My headcanon also doesn't really hold ground since for the first question, it could also be stated that Diavolo is just too arrogant to not let anyone not know who killed then, and it would also make sense for his character. He's a coward, but he's a coward who's going to let you know his name, since only dead men tell no tales.

Back to the argument though, yeah, Stands tend to be pretty contradictory in Jojo, so really the most we can do is just use what base definition the anime/manga gives us, and I think it's just overall less confusing if we use the one we see in his fight against Bruno. If we were to base abilities off of events, then they'd have to pretty consistent; King Crimson is unfortunately not one of these examples.

This is a topic that could be discussed another time though.

Back to your argument about Scenario C, I can see it being one of the possible scenarios, but I still see A being the most possible.

I don't think we should take the Manga's "Most Overpowered Ability" statement at full value, since

A.) Araki literally has an "I forgot" meme, and

B.) Gold Experience Requiem is clearly a superior ability, it's just that it's not mentioned because it has no relevance to Part 6. For all we know, it could be the same to King Crimson, it's just that it was never mentioned since it has no relevance to Part 6.

Back to Scenario C though, I think Diavolo's ability needs to be made clear. I'm not referring to the things I stated earlier, I'm referring to Diavolo's true ability: Fate itself. I know it probably sounds really stupid, but hear me out.

Diavolo, in his world of Skipped Time, is the only being that can 'defy' his fate, while everyone else is bound to their own. This fate is unavoidable, and everyone is forced to act these out except for Diavolo until he decides to stop his Time Skip or 10 seconds have passed.

The thing about Fate in Jojo, is that it's inevitable. As we see in the Rolling Stones Arc, fate is predetermined, and cannot be changed no matter what. Nothing can change fate, and even King Crimson and Gold Experience Requiem's abilities are still according to Fate's hands. That's right: Time Skipping and Reality Warping, as absurd as it might seem, are still according to fate itself.

Fate is seemingly unaffected by Time and Space itself, and yet Diavolo reigns (some) control over it. This is why I think DIO would be forced to act out his Time-Stopped Fate; you can pause time, but you can't pause fate.

This is just what I believe would happen though, I could be entirely wrong and DIO's ability could pause Diavolo's, but I'm willing to debate and see what happens.