Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28702329-20181215114648/@comment-26388068-20190716213938

Pintassilgo wrote: Jotaro could win against diavolo, be it "random encounter", "bloodlust showdown", or even "diavolo seeking to assasinate jotaro". Let me explain.

Most people have probably forgot Star Platinum's first & original ability, his passive "Ultra-keen-precog/precision".

This ability is what let him & starplatinum "gradually react & adapt" to dio's time-stop ability, and eventually, "learn" how to do it. Eventually developing Starplatinum: The World.

Despite starplatinum's stand archetype being a currency between "major characters", its "ultra-keen-precog/precision" skill is what make starplatinum & jotaro have a higher "sensorial/paranormal/psionic grasp" between their shared consciousness.

I can imagine the scene.

Jotaro travels to italy alongside koichi & starts seeking for whatever happened to polnareff, the latter not entering contact to speedwagon's foundation for a long time started this matter.

Jotaro eventually knows about this "passione" organization by running over any of it's stand user henchmen, and manage to killing-spree several of then, looking for this "boss" person who commands passione from the shadows.

His experience in stardust crusaders journey & his "lack of awareness" in morioh's campaing, has turned him more "vigilante" about "stand actions" in his surroundings during this "gangstar campaing", making star platinum almost always active "inside him", exploiting it's "ultra-keen-precog/precision".

He's dealing with stand users trained to assasinate, that can come from anywhere, as dangeous as dio's hitmans & servants

The information about this "jotaro person" reaches diavolo. Including his time-controling stand & that there's this other short-guy that can manage "3 different stands", who joined bucciarati group.

Diavolo sends doppio in order to execute this jotaro person, the latter who decided to act alone, while koichi takes the passive investigation while on bucciarati group.

Doppio eventually met jotaro & diavolo starts instructing doppio with epitaph & king crimson's arms procedure in order assasinate this person, while disguised/hidden.

This proceeds to fail several times. For some reason, epitaph never shows doppio a vision of him "attempting to assault jotaro" whenever it gets disguised/ready for a sneak attack. Doppio always seems retreating in those.

Diavolo then manages to kick-in a narrative for doppio in order to "switch in" and take the lead.

This time, diavolo is full control, still disguised as doppio, with king crimson full power.

Diavolo manages to look at epitaph, sees himself aproaching jotaro in timeskip (doppio appearence, with a colegial costume).

King crimson appears on jotaro's back. Star platinum's arm appears from jotaro's back & counters king crimson "arm backstab", then fully appearing & outclassing king crimson with it's ora-barrage. Diavolo gets multiple blunt-trauma injuries over his body in the process.

The diavolo's epitaph vision ends with jotaro still normally walking foward, around 1.5 seconds later jotaro feels a "sudden thud", as it had a hypnic jerk/jumpscare, instantly all the images of everything that starplatinum has done appeared in his memory, by summoning itself & fighting other stand as "subcounsciousness reaction" over his "ultra-keen precog/precision, over a course of 10 seconds.

Given that scenario, Diavolo has some of these options:

1 - Instead of attacking, using his time-skip to avoid an encounter with jotaro, then "retreats". Start gathering passione's most loyal members to elaborate a strategy for killing/weakening jotaro for him. Jotaro eventually joining bucciarati & crippled polnareff. Both jotaro & koichi influence would avoid several casualties, giving a upper hand to bucciarati's team in the "Requiem Arrow" race.

2 - Keep tracking jotaro as "colegial doppio disguise", while watching more scenarios where he gets overpowered & have to time-skip everytime in order to change fate where "the worst for him comes".

3 - "Confront destiny", trying to "force" his victory over star platinum. Using diavolo's "untargetable/intangible" body, operating "chance" & creating openings for kingcrimson's feint-attacks at jotaro's body, only to be blocked & tanked by star platinum ultra-precog/precision over kingcrimson's time-skip spatial changes.

Meanwhile jotaro's counsciousness is fighting in starplatinum's, within time, his body & mind gets even more "immersed" in the spatial changes caused by each of king crimson's time-skip as the time passes, until starplatinum eventually: a) Becomes capable of stopping time during the time-skips; b) Develops a new stand ability, Star Platinum: King Crimson. I'm gonna asume that all this shit is a joke. A very expansive joke. There are so many thing wrong that is hard to find a place to beguin.

First of all. Star Platinum never had a ability that let him to "adapt" to others abilitys, I understand if is your teory but is far away from being somthing even possible. Jotaro's ability is stop time, that's all. Is the same case with DIO, who get the stand but discovered that The World can stop time several months later after obtaining his stand, Stardust Crusaders occurred in at least 2 or 3 months, so Jotaro eventually discovers his ability to stop time in the fight with DIO. That's all, nothing more.

Even then, I agree that Star Platinum has this "precognitive" ability. But is mostly that has very good time reaction and having much speed make it look like a "precognitive" ability. That's all. In most of the times Jotaro needs to have some type of awareness to allow Star Platinum to react.

Other thing, Epitaph can't see King Crimson eraseing time. That's the whole thing with King Crimson ereased time, is a ability that let Diavolo untie himself from destiny, so it would make no sense that Epitaph, a stand that sees the future (destiny) would see Ereased Time. Just like all the GER thing in the end of VA.

Yo are just overpowering Jotaro for literal no reason.

And no, even Star Platinum would have problems to react after King Crimson's time skip and blocking a full atack of King Crimson would be a problem, even for Jotaro, especially because Diavolo can use Epitaph to see if Jotaro even attemps to strike back, so he just needs to avoid it.

If Diavolo has this shity ability, it would be easy to defeat the rat stand user himself with his ability, but even then he gets pierced be the rat. No sense.

Diavolo wins over Jotaro (Especially because he has no vampire ability to regenerate himself).