Board Thread:Fanmade/@comment-34013154-20181112223306/@comment-43786043-20190925123131

Kingasdfg wrote: JosephFanboy wrote:

Larry Capucha wrote: Imadeanaccounttotalktoyou wrote: Im just here to say that we shouldn't trust Araki and his retcons when he says things like

"JOSEPH HAD HERMIT PURPLE IN PART 2"

So ima go ahead and think that Riux actually had a big brain because he didn't believe in part 6's infamous line of

"STAR PLATINUM STOP TIME, STRONGEST STAND EVER"

In conclusion, instead of believing the "word of god" rule (I laughed when I saw it) because its the same thing as believing Star Platinum can only be beating by his kids. (one of his interviews)

(btw im 200% sure that Jotaro wouldn't cut his leg off if Johnny shoots a nail into the ground. Also tusk4's infinite rotation is conducted through contact because... you know that moment when D4C is stuck in the ground BECAUSE TUSK 4 PUMMELED HIM INTO IT. heck johnny even has the reaction ability to deflect knives in a instant after stop time.)

(btw n2. Johnny could have shot toenails at D4C if he missed his last shot, just a plothole) Believe in what Araki says damn it, you don't know more about a fictional world than what the creator of said fictional world knows. It's like when J.K Rowling stated in an interview that Dumbledore was gay and people went ballistics over that. She made tha damn character and she can add on things as she pleases. You can interpret it in many ways, but don't be as pendantic as to believe that somehow your word is more relevant than Araki's. Personally I think he meant SP is the strongest "natural" stand, meaning no requiem and no heaven That's a fair point. Also, why does it matter that Johnny had the reation time to deflect time stop knives? Is Jotaro throwing knives now? When you say things like "We shouldn't believe Araki" that shows you think you know more than the creator. Yes, Araki has stated multiple times that he forgets what happened in previous parts, hence why some things are inconsistent. However, when it is in the same part, isn't a retcon, and is literally shown, like the fact that Tusk is NOT the stand of the Spin, nor is Tusk made of Spin, which is what RIUX1 said, which was the point I disproved. I didn't say something like, "Well, Araki stated that SP:TW is the strongest stand ever, so Jotaro wins every versus battle (procedes to snort and push glasses up)". Araki says he changes things between parts, and that he forgets, but he keeps thing consistent between parts, and when it isn't he explains why, such as the issue with Hermit Purple 2. That statement about Star Platinum could be talking about natural stands, like Larry suggested, or it could mean physically strongest, or strongest known at the time, or strongest seen in part 6 as of that chapter. It doesn't matter what your opinion is, it doesn't matter what you think, what matters are the facts stated by Araki and shown by the manga. Stop suggesting that you know more about a world Araki made up than Araki does, because unless you're his editor, a family member or his brainstorming page given human form, you don't. Stick to facts. To be fair, Araki has stated before that the fans know more about Jojo than he does, because of how much he changes things and forgets between parts. It's not unreasonable for the fans to interpret things beyond Araki's words. It's not unreasonable to have your own interpretation, but it's wrong to assume that your specific interpretation is correct. The argument that I disproved had the entire outcome of the battle based on one specific interpretation of Tusk ACT 4. Also, while  Araki does change things between parts, changes things between the beginning and end of the part and forgets netween parts, the specific interpretation that I disproved was contradicted by something in the same fight. Ball Breaker and Tusk ACT 4 were both introduced while fighting D4C: Love Train. When the interpretation is contradicted by something shown in the manga, rather than stated, thats when it falls apart. When your argument for a battle is purely based on headcanon, then it becomes a flame war of "well I think this, so I'm right and you're stupid", and that becomes toxic real fast. You should base your arguments on the most recent evidence given, and not on personal opinions. If the entire fanbase has created a "best interpretation", thats one thing, but when it's your opinion vs. feats and shown data, then the debate falls apart and devolves to personal attacks, and often times someones mother gets insulted. As I said before, base your argumentss on facts.