Board Thread:Manga Discussion/@comment-39718735-20200516000645/@comment-39718735-20200628074322

Daedalus100 wrote: My personal takeaway is such:


 * All stand arrows work the same way. The Requiem Arrow just has a different design.


 * Kira gains Bites the Dust after being personally pierced by the arrow because of his will to survive and move past what he did after killing Hayato. His sheer willpower and desire to get out of the situation he was in granted him another ability. If his stand was pierced at that moment, I suspect that we would have gotten Killer Queen Requiem.


 * Giorno doesn't gain Gold Experience Requiem in the fight against Polpo because he wasn't worthy yet. His will to survive hadn't been strained, and thus he hadn't 'earned' the power of the arrow yet for his actions.


 * Requiem can only be gained if you pierce your stand with the arrow and the arrow deems you worthy of such power.

This all ties into a bigger discussion about how exactly stand power is gained. It's wildly inconsistent and all over the place in the series. Hell, Joseph (and consequently, DIO in Jonathan's body) gets a stand ability because of their training with Hamon. Some people develop a stand on their own. The majority of Stand users are created by the arrows, however. I believe Stands are a universal concept in JJBA, and the arrows just help compatible users unlock that ability; as does Hamon with Hermit Purple, or just unlocking a stand through sheer willpower. Regarding Kira I'd say it's a similar thing cause the arrow awakened a power that made him invincible given those circumstances, the only reason he lost was due to his own stupidity.

Yeah, Hermit Purple is such an odd example, that stand was semi awakened during part 2 in the same way GE was before part 5 (when he made the grass grow to hide that gangster). And then (SPOILERS) during part 7 you have Gyro obtaining a stand by spinning a steel ball at a high speed. It's so curious, if DIO in Jonathan's body obtaining a stand awakened all the Joestar stands what if Joseph didn't slack on his training and managed to fully awaken Hermit Purple? Would that lead to Jotaro, Holly and Josuke awakening their stands as well?

That's one of the best parts of this series, Araki has given so much info about stands and there are still hundreds of questions to do.