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Naruichiplayz6 wrote: Thebannanaworkshop wrote: Naruichiplayz6 wrote: AR3Q13M STAND wrote: For me personally, either one can win.

The way GER wins: All Pucci Needs needs to do is strike GER once and his actions will be nullified to the point where the never actually happened. Pucci would be stunned and GER would barrage him, sending him to an infinite death.

The way MIH wins: IF GER is a timed power up (Eyes of Heaven confirms this, to some degree since Giorno should Permanently have GER for the whole game but doesn't.) So all Pucci has to do is avoid GER's attack until it runs out and he strikes. IF GER is not a timed powered up, Pucci would most likely be abke to force GER into the Time Acceleration (All Star Battle did have GER move normaly in Time Acceleration, but making an accurate Time Acceleration in a game is nigh impossible so take my facts h a light grain of salt.) and GER would attempt to defy MIH's Fate, but keep in miould simply overwrite this action and all Pucci would need to do is one good strike to a vital organ and it's all over.

Again, Take this theory with a light grain of salt. Im not the judge or jury of theories, I'm just putting it out there. "All Star Battle did have GER move normaly in Time Acceleration, but making an accurate Time Acceleration in a game is nigh impossible so take my facts with a light grain of salt"

This is because GER could nullify TA, but game balance.

"and GER would attempt to defy MIH's Fate, but keep in mind that Made In Heaven's Fate is substantially different from King Crimson's Fate so GER being beyond a Perfect Universal Stand is questionable"

It's not. Fate is still fate and GER can nullify it. GER has control over fate itself. All effects are nullified.

P.S. : Eyes of Heaven is non-canon. It's possible for Giorno and HA DIO's fight to be stalemate. see. ger has be attacked to nullify fate,he can't simply nullify the casuality of the universe unless he is directly effected by it. and no pucci has the ability to slighy control what fate he wants to happen,ger can only negate and control the  fate that effects him. ger and giorno will still be effected by the universe reset but may have resistance to the effects of time acceleration.

pucci could just make it so giorno was sent back to italy.or make it so the never incountered at al. Giorno could nullify it. Anything, I mean ANYTHING, that is against Giorno, will be nullified. This includes the Universal Reset. Plus, Giorno has the blood of a brando.

" pucci has the ability to slighy control what fate he wants to happen"

Slightly, but GER has control of ALL fate itself.

"ger and giorno will still be effected by the universe reset but may have resistance to the effects of time acceleration."

No. Two words: GAME. BALANCE. One thing's for sure: The ASB staff are very aware that GER could negate Time Acceleration. ger doesnt control pure fate,he controls causality which is rated as different than being fate hax and even then giorno doesnt have control of the fate he wants to change ger does it for him. and again this only works if something has the intent to harm giorno.

pucci could simply make sure giorno and his fight never happened,or send giorno back to italy.

and no ger does not nullfy anything. there are multiple things that could both negate and completely denie giorno's ability to control casuality in canon and non canon.for example.

d4c's ability to cause paradoxes should denie rtz. and lucy steel's ticket to ride also has the ability to effect causuality albeit to a lower degree.