Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28702329-20181215114648/@comment-45447534-20200429045931

ButterMilkPancake wrote: Flexsuke wrote: Kingasdfg wrote:

Flexsuke wrote:

Kingasdfg wrote: The fact of the matter is that King Crimson doesn't have any feats that put him on the same level as The World. It's certainly faster and stronger than Sticky Fingers but we don't know how that Stand would compare to The World either.

And, as I mentioned before, time stop should work regardless of King Crimson's ability. If this were a versus thread, I'd say DIO is almost certainly the winner.

I'd like to remind everyone, though, that this thread is not about who would win in a fight. There's a Star Platinum vs King Crimson thread so if you want to debate who would win in a fight, go there. Let's keep this thread focused on time stop vs time erase. I dont want to since you think light speed is impossible in anime lmao PLEASE dont bring up that real life anything with mass cant be lightspeed BULLSHIT THEY HAVE SUPERFUCKING POWERS AND I SAY SILVER CHARIOT IS LIGHT SPEED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HANGED MAN IS A LIGHT BASED STAND THAT JUMPED THRU REFLECTION IF YOURE TRYING TO TELL ME EVEN THO ITS IN THE DESCRIPTION OF HIS POWER THAT HES LIGHT AND CAN MOVE AT SAID SPEED THEN I DONT EVEN WANT TO DEBATE A REGULAR BATTLE AT ALL.

But i have another thought about What you think about time stop being some sort of other world of time you cant even enter what was pucci and MIH doing not to mention he LOOKED AT JOTARO IN STOPPED WHILE HE STILL HAD C-MOON Made in Heaven is a whole different beast, not applicable to this conversation.

Silver Chariot does not have light speed feats. Despite how it may look in the anime, Polnareff himself literally explains that he cannot move as fast as The Hanged Man. He only is able to hit it because he can predict it's movement path with the coin trick. If Silver Chariot was light speed, it wouldn't have needed the coin trick at all. Polnareff "moving his sword after Hanged Man moved" is simply a bit of visual flair. Like how Star Platinum and The World seemed to be flying during their final fight. They weren't, that's just how DP chose to visualize their Stand-jumping.

And even then, King Crimson is demonstrably slower than Silver Chariot, even a weakened Silver Chariot was able to cut Diavolo immediately after King Crimson's ability ended, something that Gold Experience and Sticky Fingers couldn't do. King Crimson is certainly faster than those two Stands, but definitely not as fast as Silver Chariot.

Since Star Platinum's speed is roughly comparable to an armoured Silver Chariot, and The World has the same speed as Star Platinum, it's therefore reasonable to assume that The World is faster than King Crimson. The 1st hit Silver Chariot got on Hanged man was POINT BLANK when he kicked dust in the kids face before he could get inside his OWN eye

If you were to just stand directly in-front of a baseball throwing machine going at 90mph coming straight at you are you telling me you can react just because you know its trajectory?

Are we forgetting they fought before they even showed it the battle wasn’t a super quick 1 moment encounter he fought Polnareff and crippled him

And no you misunderstood i said hanged man speed is light not because in the anime it was depicted as such but because its in his actual stand power description like in words it says he’s light based Hows him moving his sword To attack visual flair he would literally have to its not like he just made Silver Chariot appear with the sword already drawn and pointed out waiting for hanged man to slice himself when he leaped to the coin. The ONLY way this feat would be not as impressive is if Silver Chariot was literally out infront of the coin BEFORE hanged man even made the jump to the coin

And with pucci i did say he looked at Jotaro with only c-moon and before he began to transfrom He knew where HM would go with the dust trick since there werent many other reflective surfaces.

SC does go near light speed, but not as fast as HM who does go light speed. If SC actually could move at light speed, he wouldn't have needed to use the coin trick. So you’re gonna ignore the POINT BLANK silver chariot feat and not explain why my example about how even if you know somethings trajectory doesn’t give you 100% advantage and you still need actual speed to to react to or hit something like i said UNLESS SC WAS LITERALLY WAITING FOR HM IN THE AIR INFRONT OF THE COIN BEFOOORE HANGED MAN EVEN JUMPS OUT THE EYE THEN AND ONLLLLLYYY THEN WOULD THE FEAT BE LESS IMPRESSIVE YES HE KNEW WHERED HE GO BUT ITS NOT LIKE SC WAS CAMPING BY THE COIN HE BROUGHT OUT SILVER CHARIOT AFFFFTER HANGED MAN JUMPED FROM THE EYEBALL INTO THE COIN