Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5824377-20121205013136/@comment-1991846-20121206030412

MetallicKaiser wrote: Camilo113 wrote: But lets think about this, if Giorno would have negated the Cause or the Effect of Made in Heaven, in the first case, that would mean that Pucci would have think of accelerating the time of the universe but he would never would be able to do it beacuse GER negated the "Cause" and in the second case, Pucci would have accelerated time but the Universe would never have hit the Vanishing Point, negating his reset because GER negated the "Effect".

Also, Giorno didn't know what was happening and if he "someway" protected himself with GER of the Universe Reset, then, he would have died, because the first Universe vanish completely (and if he "negated" that would mean he stay in the first universe) and Giorno would have be wandering in the nowhere and then died.

So this means that Giorno was reset along with the entire Universe and he may have a counterpart. Pucci's stand simply accelerates time fast enough to where everything dies off, and then the universe reforms again due to nartural evolution. Well not natural, since Pucci essentially sped it up, but GER would simply have to keep resetting Giorno's age to keep him from dying. I think beings only died off due to not being able to keep up with the accelerated time, but you'll notice after the singularity point on Pucci's unvierse diagram that after that point, time slowed down and resumed normal new world time. So Giorno would only need to pass that point to survive, and if GER can reset the effects of going through that point back to 0, Giorno can easily pass through it.

http://www.mangarush.com/files/mangas/stone-ocean/157/2.jpg

However, you may be right in saying Pucci couldn't have accomplished speeding up time, if GER kept resetting it. But even if GER can be a universal stand, Giorno may have not been aware of the time acceleration to stop it. GER actually has a mind of its own and will protect Giorno if needed, so maybe it only used its abiltiy on Giorno, letting the rest of the world die off. Giorno wouldn't have noticed until after it protected him, since the world reset in a matter of seconds. Nice, i didn't think it in that way, Thanks.

And about the thing in wich Universe is Emporio, if i recall correct, Universe was reset exactly 2 times (First due to MiH and then when Pucci died) and Emporio stayed in Universe 3# but we still can't say that it isn't the same Universe as SBR because, SBR is the Phantom Blood counterpart so that mean it hasn't reached yet Stone Ocean, and JoJolion take places in Diamond is Unbreakable counterpart so that could mean that is the same Universe that Emporio is but it is just the beginning of the Storyline (just a speculation obviously)