Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28702329-20181215114648/@comment-38464866-20190911220949

VinceC87 wrote: Sticky Fingers Ari wrote: VinceC87 wrote: Kingasdfg wrote: Angeloder wrote:

Kingasdfg wrote: Angeloder wrote:

VinceC87 wrote: Babythedude wrote: well all KC has to do is just destroy TW like how Star Platinum broke it in half which resulted in DIO dying. (which when u think about it TW is really "fragile" in terms of the amount of times it gets shattered by SP) Then again, now you have to take into account that King Crimson has a Durability stat of E, meaning it would probably get limbs shattered almost on impact if there was a sort of Stand Clash between KC and TW. Durability reffers to how long the ability can be held That... doesn't really make sense at all. Like, Gold Experience can create creatures that last almost indefinitely but only has a durability of D. Or how King Crimson can use it's ability for up to 10 seconds but oncly has an E in durability, but Star Platinum can use it's ability for only 5 seconds but gets an A? I think durability is supposed to refer to how tough a Stand is but, like most Stand stats, it's bullshit. Durability also reffers to how often the stand can use his ability

so it means that King Crimson can erease time for 10 seconds but it has a long cooldown

Id say that the longer he sustains his ability, the more time it takes to recharge I don't really trust that. There's too much bullshit in Stand Stats to find them in any way reliable. I think the durability refers to the actual strength of the composition of the Stand. The World had a B, and Star Platinum had an A, and so Star Platinum asspulled his win against The World by cracking him to pieces or whatever. If durability referred to the duration of the Stand ability, then how come The World's durability is less than Star Platinum, when Star Platinum in its prime can only hold a Time Stop for 5 seconds, while The World at time of death could hold for 9? As well as this, when King Crimson poked himself with the arrow after Gold Experience did, he literally started breaking into pieces, i.e. piss poor durability.

So, if The World's and King Crimson's fists ever were to meet, Diavolo would end up with some pretty f**ked up hands. And probably die. To be accurate the Arrow is made to break and pierce any stand, not just Diavolo's. It clearly made Giorno almost bleed out from just grabbing it (the Fight aginst Black Sabbath). Of course including the time where it broke through Silver Chariot as well and made it melt. It's clear it has that effect with whatever Stand it pierces. You really can't say it's because of King Crimson's Durability at all. To be accurate, the Arrows were made along the same premise as the Stone Masks: to unlock the hidden inner potential of a person (or Pillar Man). They were made to pierce people. However, when a Stand is stabbed, its total potential is released in the form of an upgrade unrelated to the stand's original ability, which comes with a change in composition. That change in composition (as far as we know) usually involves the Stand melting and reforming, or shedding its "shell" or "skin" revealing the new stand underneath. It has that effect when it grants a Stand its Requiem powers. And we definitely didn't see a King Crimson Requiem, although a fight between two absolutely broken Stands would be super great, after it gets pierced and cracked by it. I think that's because the Arrow can either only grant one Requiem ability at a time, or produce one Requiem Stand at a time, i.e. there cannot be two existing Requiem Stands produced by the same Arrow at once. Point is, King Crimson has really bad durability, and that's why.

P.S. Giorno barely cut his hand at all when grabbing the arrow from Black Sabbath. However, his Stand did steam and crack, in a similar fashion to the other Requiem Stands. It's clear the arrow can cleave through stands as well as people

See Yoshikage Kira or Giorno for example. Also the anime episode where Giorno cut his hand had way more blood than the manga (I don't know which one you saw when making the post). Yes, it does change composition, but it still damages the user indicating its power to Cut through Stands. Remember Chariot Requiem's Transformation? (admittedly polnareff was already injured during the Requiem process thanks to Diavolo). Even Giorno was physically damaged when he received Gold Experience Requiem. It's clear that the composition change the Stand undertakes does, in fact, damage the user (although afterward they usually heal) in a similar fashion with regular stands. Koichi was shot with the arrow and was injured, Roshambo Kid is an example of when the arrow doesn't heal the wound it causes.