Board Thread:Manga Discussion/@comment-28702329-20180621120402/@comment-37565459-20190120004630

S.Cond Bomb wrote: Boysmith2003 wrote: Zodazzle wrote: And that is still selfish. Humans that have learned the art of hamon can stand on the same level as Pillar Men, so can you blame Joseph, Lisa Lisa, and Caesar for trying to stop them? They want to keep them in check so they don't rise up to a power they don't need to possess. They are the good guys after all. Kars was even stopped by HIS own people because they knew that if everyone wore the Stone Mask, there would be too much of a general hunger to be able to support. When they finally had to just kill him to stop him from doing anything drastic, HE KILLS THEM. He wanted to save his people, who were trying to save everyone from his crazy desires. He should of quit it and nobody would of gotten unrightfully harmed. I cannot stress this enough, KARS KILLED HIS TRIBE BECAUSE THEY WERE THINKING FOR THE GREATER GOOD. I've been these cap sentences because it's so obvious that KARS IS NOT IN THE RIGHT. No. He was king, and thus is to be followed with little to no question what so ever. Disobeying your king often lead to brutal punishments, including executions. Also, do be aware that according to the words of Will A. Zeppeli, 1/10,000 can actually use Hamon compotently. That is a small AF fraction of the human population. Also, we never hear anything of Pilar-women, or any other Pilar-men besides Esidisi, Wamu, and Kars. It's logical to assume that they are still entombed in stone, not deceased. You should also be aware that your attacking this isue with your morals, which you have to disregard when the manga itself describes the Pilar-men/Pilar-women as "apex predators." Qupte: Battle Tendency introduces the Pillar Men (柱の男 Hashira no Otoko), an ancient race of apex predators and progenitors to the Vampires." Apex predators= top of the food chain. That means they can have pick of any lower prey. Morally, Kars' actions are attrocious, but he cannot nesscarily be seemn as evil, because of the fact that he was trying to better his race. Quote: "One of their members created the Stone Masks in an attempt to find a way to bypass their species' weakness to sunlight so they may rule Earth." Ruling Earth was the goal from the beginning, you dumbass. Make sure to actually do research on your point before arguing with anyone, let alone me. Shit nigga, all that time you spent proving how your argument makes sense could've been spent on making sure it actually makes sense.

>He was king, and thus is to be followed without any questions

Kars wasn't king. The manga/anime never states what rank he even was in the Pillar Man society. (also that shit sounds kinda authoritarian)

>competent hamon users are 1/10,000

sure, but how does that relate to the argument at hand?

>we never hear anything of any pillar men except Esidisi, Wamuu and Kars

motherfucker, how can you act so sure about that when you forgot fucking Santana

>it's safe to assume they're all intombed in stone, not deceased

the manga/anime clearly states Kars fucking killed them all

also you seem to have forgotten how Kars' stone masks increased the pillar men's appetites/metabolism/whateverthefuck to monstrous levels, meaning the pillar men would run out of food very quickly, therefore they were right to reject his ideas

>ruling earth was the goal from the start

that was only Kars' goal, the rest didn't give a shit

TL;DR: ur dumb and gay, read the manga "sure, but how does that relate to the argument at hand?" That means the majority of humanity cannot defend itself.

"Kars wasn't king. The manga/anime never states what rank he even was in the Pillar Man society. (also that shit sounds kinda authoritarian)" You are a fool. If you listen to/read the dialog, Wamu directly states that Kars is king of their people.

Quote: "Kars is the leader of the Pillar Men, and the designer of the Stone Mask." From your own wiki, dumbass.

"the manga/anime clearly states Kars fucking killed them all "

When? i listened to the dialouge and it never happened. please provide quotes.

"motherfucker, how can you act so sure about that when you forgot fucking Santana"

Yes, i did forget Santana, but that's besides the point. The manga/anime never state ANYTHING about oyher Pilar-Men besides the main four, and certainly not anything about Pilar-Women

"also you seem to have forgotten how Kars' stone masks increased the pillar men's appetites/metabolism/whateverthefuck to monstrous levels, meaning the pillar men would run out of food very quickly, therefore they were right to reject his ideas"

Fair enough, but an easy way around it is to simply turn half the population of the planet, leaving 50% alive, and feeding on the other half, meaning that the food would last awhile before the Pilar-Men would die out.

"that was only Kars' goal, the rest didn't give a shit"

Only Wamu was against this because he had "warrior's honor". Esidisi and Kars wanted Earth, and the eradication of all Hammon users.