Talk:Gold Experience Requiem/@comment-24120087-20160802045035/@comment-27100020-20170504230045

Well, tusk 4 isnt acasual: it wasn't moving in stopped time, but he was like moving in a kind of infinite rotation's pocket dimension or else he [tusk 4] would pummel dio when he [dio] looked in the hole. And that xforts video - i've also watched it, but the paradox (unstoppable force vs immovable object) cant be used to describe this as tusk 4 isn't an unstoppable force: 1) clearly there is a moment when the rotation starts, so it can be turned to zero point

2) the paradox's problem is that there can only be one unstoppable force. if there is an object it can't move it's not unstoppable anymore and vice versa. so that unstoppable force and immovable object should be the same 'things'

3) if its unstoppable, how can it be reverted by an oppo site rotation. if its unstopable, that means it's also immovable from the perspective of other forces then the struggle between two those  rotations is the description of this paradox, but the fact that the resultant force (rotation) is zero means that from the beginning the force wasn't unstoppable (immovable).

so clearly ger is the winner and there can't be any doubt about it. the only stand that can oppose ger is d4c with love train. i assume valentine could even kill giorno using the alternate universe giorno