Board Thread:Anime/Game Discussion/@comment-29981284-20161228210504/@comment-4148373-20190414220600

Boysmith2003 wrote: Aight let's they this out again, because you're simple minded.

1: I do not live in Italy. I live in America. THEREFORE i subject him to my country's laws.

2: Thus, by deductive reasoning, that means I don't give a shit about Italy's laws. I don't live there, they don't affect me, so I shouldn't care. You do realize a legal defense means jack-sh*t when we're talking about moral judgments, yes? And US laws don't apply to Italian citizens, so claiming he should be free from blame or punishment (which an Insanity Defense usually doesn't get you, it just gets you psychiatric help and a padded cell over jail) because the laws of your country say so would be laughed out of any court, beyond your own. And anyone arguing the same, but for another country, would rightfully be laughed out of a US court. Usually, anyway, unless the crime crossed borders, which is always a legal clusterf*ck, but I digress. In the same way that you don't give a sh*t about Italy's laws, Italy doesn't give a sh*t about US laws (except on rare occasions when both sets of laws could apply).

I also find it rather odd that you're using US laws as the entire basis for your moral framework, and assuming it to be that of others. It's a rare person who can't find a single law that's tricky for their morality to handle in their country, and often they can quite easily find laws they flat-out consider stupid, or even immoral or harmful. That's why laws are updated, added, altered, and repealed quite regularly, and why some laws that are on the books are really only ever enforced if you manage to really annoy the local cops and/or the DA. Like loitering, or jaywalking.

That's not even getting into the assumption that all US courts would consider Diavolo insane enough to not be responsible for his actions. I guarantee you that plenty of judges would disagree. Diavolo might be paranoid, but his paranoia seems to spring from an understanding of "right and wrong", or at least "illegal and legal", and the consequences of that. And that understanding happens to be a major factor in many determinations of whether the insanity defense is actually valid. So yeah, I could very easily see a court judging Diavolo, by himself, responsible for his actions. Doppio...Doppio complicates matters, but even he's probably aware he's breaking the law, and just doesn't really care that much. Neither of them are so insane that they're not aware of reality, at least for the most part, barring Doppio's...creative choices of "phone". That doesn't really affect his ability to determine if he's breaking the law, or if what he's doing is right or wrong, though.