Board Thread:Fanmade/@comment-34013154-20181112223306/@comment-43786043-20200310175828

Okay, I'll admit that last bit I said was kinda douchey. I do understand your point, i just disagree with it. Out of 21 Stands in SBR, 7 of them are definitely, 100% NOT a mere representation. Obviously punchghosts like THE WORLD and D4C fit in that category, but Stands that are a physical object, namely Catch the Rainbow, Cream Starter, and Chocolate Disco, aren't just a representation of a concept, they're an object with an ability, whereas Tomb of the Boom and Civil War, while theey don't have direct combat abilities, are able to affect the world around them physically, and can be damaged. IMO, Tusk is in the punchghost category, because we see it physically pummel D4C. Tusk is explained to be a stand granted by the holy corpse. Both Johnny and Hot Pants say that, were Johnny to lose all of the corpse parts, he would lose Tusk (yes, he still has Tusk when the full corpse is together, but maybe he kept a little bit of corpse essence inside of him, or maybe when he had the vision of the Saint he gained a permanent version of Tusk). Yes, Tusk ACTs 1-3 only give the ability to apply the Spin to the users nail for various uses, but since Tusk ACT 4 can physically punch another punchghost I'm more inclined to believe that Tusk ACTs 1-3 are similar to Civil War and Tomb of the Boom, where they are still able to affect objects but their ability is the main point, and that Tusk ACT 4 is like THE WORLD and D4C.

I think that, even if the stand Tusk is a mere representation of Johnny's powers, that Jotaro still has a reasonable chance to win. If Jotaro sees that his punches don't affect Tusk ACT 4, then he has to get SP:TW over to Johnny himself. While this makes it harder for Jotaro to win, I doubt that Johnny is all that far away from Jotaro, probably still in range of the nail bullets, which is ten meters. Even if his range got better by using ACT 4, it wouldn't be farther than like 20 meters, and we've seen Jotaro stand jump massive distances in his fight with DIO, so that range is definitely reasonable to jump. That would drastically lower Jotaro's chances of victory though. The thing is, since Tusk can punch D4C, it should be possible for SP:TW to punch Tusk.

My point is that, while it makes it much harder for Jotaro to win, Tusk being a non-physical being doesn't mean Johnny auto-wins. However, a non-physical being shouldn't be able to punch things. I really think that Tusk is the 8th non-representation Stand in SBR, and it could be argued that Hey Ya! isn't just a representation as well, because he gives actual advice to Pocoloco rather than simple intuition, but that is kinda irrelevant whether he is or not.

TL:DR, I understand your point, I'm just saying I disagree with it.