Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-44139499-20200211043340/@comment-25917068-20200223043722

In my opinion, its GER. Here´s my reasons.

1. MiH and GER, while being a fight with no winner, its still in favor of Giorno. Pucci´s speed is infinite so Giorno can´t detect him, nor even touch him. However, in order to attack Giorno, Pucci needs to approach him. GER detects every threat coming to him so if Pucci ever comes near, he will fall under GER´s effect. Basically the "unstoppable object vs inmovable object" paradox. I say its in Giorno´s favor because if Pucci falls victim, Giorno would nullify his actions. The time acceleration, physically, doesn´t affect people directly.

2. GER beats D4C, but Valentine still can win. First, most of the alternate universes are similar to the main one. When Johnny traps Valentine in the Infinite Spin, Valentine realizes that happened in all universes and he is damned to repeat that, in every universe he visits. So if he falls on GER, his destiny would be the same in all universes. However, it is unknown if GER has awareness over other universes or if it can control them, so, assuming it can´t, Valentine would pull another version of Giorno, obliterating both of them. Valentine can project himself on an alternate universe without using his alternate self as body, which means he can drag an alternative Giorno anyway.....If he is able to scape GER.

2.5: But what about Love Train? Love Train increases Valentine´s minimal chances to win. Since the "misfortune deflection/luck attraction" its not a stand ability but an effect of the Holy Corpse. It has infinite range, such as GER, but Giorno can trap him anyways. However, Valentine´s misfortune deflection would cause Giorno to fail all of his punches. Again, the "unstoppable vs inmovable" paradox, but worse. Valentine can´t stop Giorno, but Giorno can´t kill Valentine. Unlike the "Giorno VS Pucci" match where one of them could kill the other (if he refuses to defend or act), there is literally zero winner and zero advantage in this fight. Giorno can trap Valentine in an action loop, but can´t finish him. Still, if he is in the loop, Valentine can prevent everything bad that would happen to him, due to luck.

The only thing that can defeat GER 100% (and literally every other stand in Jojo) is Star Platinum Over Heaven/The World Over Heaven, since it can rewrite reality with zero limits.