Remote stands are the only ones that are not affected by the reflection.

@KarsMarsBars the same reason kar's can blitz joseph consistently but not immediately kill him within two to three of those blitzes.

Are we really going to use Joseph as an example here? That man is riddled with plot armour. Even so, it’s still ridiculous. Kars was able to cut the bullets fired from a machine gun in half.

I can literally use this example with johnathan...jolyne and johnny respectively

Which one do you want to use first? i was thinking jolyne because she most consistently follows the joseph example. but you should choose

Pick whichever one you think displays it best.

K lets take jolyne.

Same reason She can get blitzed and absolutely cucked by whitesnake(literally getting sliced through like butter even with stone free protecting her, yet later stone free can match whitesnake blow for blow.

The answer you are looking for is P.L.O.T.

When do these two events happen? I need a reference

Jojo in it's entirety isn't MFTL, but Pucci and probably johnny's stands definitely do fit in that realm of speed.

@KarsMarsBars whitesnake the pursuerer part 5

@ShadowySage correct it isnt entirely mftl. For instance, some stands arent top-tier stands and are only around FTL or even lower.