I remember that in a spin-off JoJo Over Heaven, it is said that the 14 words were some kind of lullaby that Dio's mother sang to him, but since it is not canon I will not consider that
I remember that in a spin-off JoJo Over Heaven, it is said that the 14 words were some kind of lullaby that Dio's mother sang to him, but since it is not canon I will not consider that
Obviously not, right? After all, we got Star Platinum and The World Over Heaven, right? But canonically speaking, Made in Heaven was the only Over Heaven Stand possible based on the only known ritual. Let me show you the steps rq...
What you need is my stand, THE WORLD.
What you can find beyond the powers of my Stand is where you need to go in order to find Heaven. What you need is a trustworthy friend. He must be someone capable of controlling his own desires. He must be someone who is not interested in political power, fame, wealth, or sexual desire, and who chooses the will of God before the law of humans.
Will I, DIO, be able to meet someone like this one day?
What I also need is the lives of more than 36 humans who have sinned, because those who have sinned harbor a strong power within.
There are 14 phrases that one must keep in mind:
Spiral staircase (らせん階段, Rasen Kaidan)
Rhinoceros beetleW (カブト虫, Kabutomushi)
Desolation RowW (廃墟の街, Haikyo no machi)
Fig tart (イチジクのタルト, Ichijiku no taruto)
Rhinoceros beetle (カブト虫, Kabutomushi)
Via Dolorosa (ドロローサへの道, Dororōsa e no michi)
Rhinoceros beetle (カブト虫, Kabutomushi)
Singularity point (特異点, Tokuiten)
Giotto (ジョット, Jotto)
Angel (天使エンジェル, Enjeru)
Hydrangea (紫陽花, Ajisai)
Rhinoceros beetle (カブト虫, Kabutomushi)
Singularity point (特異点, Tokuiten)
Secret emperor (秘密の皇帝, Himitsu no Kōtei)
I'll engrave these words onto my Stand so I won't forget them. What is most necessary is "courage"; I must have the courage to destroy my Stand momentarily. As it disintegrates, my Stand will absorb the souls of the 36 sinners and will give birth to something utterly new.
Whatever is born will "awaken". It will show interest in the 14 phrases that my trusted friend will utter... My friend will trust me and I will become his "friend".
Lastly, I need an appropriate location. North latitude, 28 degrees, 24 minutes, West longitude 80 degrees, 36 minutes...
Go there and wait for the New Moon...
That's when Heaven will come.
DIO
The plan always called for the destruction of The World, and the birth of the Green Baby. The thing is, DIO never planned for his stand to achieve Heaven, he planned for his Friend to. Pucci. The truth is deeper than that. DIO insinuates that the Green Baby will awaken as DIO's reincarnation when they utter the 14 phrases. And then what happens? He merges with White Snake and becomes C-Moon. Then he becomes Made in Heaven after going to a certain location. DIO was never planned to get an Over Heaven Stand, his plan was to BECOME an Over Heaven Stand. And if you ask why he wants to be subservient to Pucci, don't forget... The final of the phrases is "Secret Emperor"...
So, The World Over Heaven is a bit of an impossibility. It was always planned to be Made in Heaven. DIO's plan was always deeper than we imagined it. This means that the Universal Reset was always DIO's plan.
Frick the poll i love this name rasputin is next
Stand: Too Much Heaven
Localized name: Heaven Overload
Stand user: Toritsukareta
Lore: Too Much Heaven evolves from a stand called Space Oddity, Toritsukareta has been obsessed with the idea of being perfect since childhood, and when he hear about dio he thought he finally found it. On his way to achieve heaven he got greedy. He began doing more than the diary required him too, which began turning his stand into a mindless zombie, until one day he realized it dissapeared all together. In the year 1996 when Toritsukareta died, his stand reappeared Too Much Heaven lives on after Toritsukareta death and torments the souls of the wicked, or literally anyone he doesnt like lol.
Strength: A (not physically the strongest but is strong)
Speed: S
Durability: B (slow regeneration due to not being able to die)
Range: D (no ranged attacks)
Precision: S
Potential: S (if someone were to harness Too Much Heaven he would become strong enough to compare him to the like of TWOH and SPOH)
Ability: Is able to manipulate anything he punches with his left hand, he also has an ability to drain the strength of his enemies by knocking them out and if it doesnt work he just kills them lolz)
KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS STAND IS SUPPOSED TO BE OP, IT IS A STAND THAT HAS ACHIEVED MORE THAN HEAVEN AND ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO LIVE ON AFTER ITS USERS DEATH.
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So maybe Jolyne sick and he can't see her but hears her suffering. This makes him realize alot of things he's done wrong and decides to obtain Heaven to better his family and friends. So how would SPOH work and what would it's main powers be?
Is the book that Dio reads in pt. 1 the same book in pt. 3, and if so, is it also Dio's diary? I have been wondering this for a while now
Keep in mind this is semi-canonical. In the light novel Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure: Over Heaven, it mentions the 14 phrases were a lullaby sang to Dio by his mother as a small child. Correct if I am wrong. People always wonder what the 14 phrases mean. This might be it. Keep in mind, this may or may not be canon.
After learning of DIO's notebook about obtaining "True heaven" Was burned my jotaro, and that jotaro knows the contents, Pucci uses whitesnake to steal the memory disc (to learn of the diary's contents) and the stand disc, the reason of this action is unknown to me, but it was probably so jotaro has no way to stop time, or injure pucci with star platinum, so he could not defend himself.
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I get that dio was madly insane and was in the absolute worst mental state.
But jotaro had known about stands.....stands that can steal souls....arrows that can choose who is worthy and later fought a guy who atomizes stuff,has a unbreakable stand and can revert time.
Why was the diary too much to take in for him? he's known about soul stealing...fate and the power of souls and has heard stories about a certaint stand that runs off of hate....he even knows that whitesnake exists before part 6 ever happens.
Why did he think the diary was just dio being dio. and not a hypothesis on how to become unconvicibly powerful?
There are 14 phrases that one must keep in mind:
Spiral staircase (らせん階段 Rasen Kaidan)
Rhinoceros beetleW (カブト虫 Kabutomushi)
Desolation RowW (廃墟の街 Haikyo no machi)
Fig tart (イチジクのタルト Ichijiku no taruto)
Rhinoceros beetle (カブト虫 Kabutomushi)
Via Dolorosa (ドロローサへの道 Dororōsa e no michi)
Rhinoceros beetle (カブト虫 Kabutomushi)
Singularity point (特異点 Tokuiten)
Giotto (ジョット Jotto)
Angel (天使エンジェル Enjeru)
Hydrangea (紫陽花 Ajisai)
Rhinoceros beetle (カブト虫 Kabutomushi)
Singularity point (特異点 Tokuiten)
Secret emperor (秘密の皇帝 Himitsu no Kōtei)
"I'll engrave these words onto my Stand so I won't forget them. What is most necessary is "courage"; I must have the courage to destroy my Stand momentarily. As it disintegrates, my Stand will absorb the souls of the 36 sinners and will give birth to something utterly new.
Whatever is born will "awaken". It will show interest in the 14 words that my trusted friend will utter... My friend will trust me and I will become his "friend".
Lastly, I need an appropriate location. North latitude, 28 degrees, 24 minutes, West longitude 80 degrees, 36 minutes...
Go there and wait for the New Moon...
That's when Heaven will come."
The Green Baby was DIO's reincarnation. The reason for this is that the 14 phrases that DIO needed to remember were things spoken to him from before. I believe they were a part of his lulliby or something? IDK. But they represent things that he dd in his life, and they were carved into his stand/soul so he would never forget. Then, when Pucci spoke the 14 phrases to The Green Baby, the Green Baby became violent and fused with him (Such a DIO move) and formed the stand C-Moon (Which had time manipulation abilities which Pucci couldn't activate, but would activate on their own (Signifying that DIO was conscious within the stand which bore a resemblance between White Snake and Green Baby.)
Here is the excerpt of the stair way to heaven in DIO's diary.
"What you need is my Stand "The World".
What you can find beyond the powers of my Stand is where you need to go in order to find Heaven.
What you need is a trustworthy friend. He must be someone capable of controlling his own desires. He must be someone who is not interested in political power, fame, wealth, or sexual desire, and who chooses the will of God before the law of humans.
Will I, DIO, be able to meet someone like this one day?
What I also need is the lives of more than 36 humans who have sinned, because those who have sinned harbor a strong power within.
There are 14 phrases that one must keep in mind:
Spiral staircase (らせん階段 Rasen Kaidan)
Rhinoceros beetle (カブト虫 Kabutomushi)
Desolation Row (廃墟の街 Haikyo no machi)
Fig tart (イチジクのタルト Ichijiku no taruto)
Rhinoceros beetle (カブト虫 Kabutomushi)
Via Dolorosa (ドロローサへの道 Dororōsa e no michi)
Rhinoceros beetle (カブト虫 Kabutomushi)
Singularity point (特異点 Tokuiten)
Giotto (ジョット Jotto)
Angel (天使エンジェル Enjeru)
Hydrangea (紫陽花 Ajisai)
Rhinoceros beetle (カブト虫 Kabutomushi)
Singularity point (特異点 Tokuiten)
Secret emperor (秘密の皇帝 Himitsu no Kōtei)
I'll engrave these words onto my Stand so I won't forget them. What is most necessary is "courage"; I must have the courage to destroy my Stand momentarily.
As it disintegrates, my Stand will absorb the souls of the 36 sinners and will give birth to something utterly new.
Whatever is born will "awaken". It will show interest in the 14 words that my trusted friend will utter... My friend will trust me and I will become his "friend".
Lastly, I need an appropriate location. North latitude, 28 degrees, 24 minutes, West longitude 80 degrees, 36 minutes...
Go there and wait for the New Moon...
That's when Heaven will come."
The Fourteen phrases are things from DIO's life.
The Spiral Staircase. The place where his story began. The Joestar Mansion.
Rhinoceros Beetle. It to me resembles the arrow that grants stands and the one that made Giorno's Gold Experience Evlove. We know that this arrow is the one DIO had, because it was the only one Polnareff took from Egypt. And the Bow and Arrow was spotted in the back of DIO's mansion.
Desolation Row is Dio trying to kill George Joestar, and his eventual fall from grace.
Fig Tart. Could that be when Erina brought fruit to Jonathan? And Dio became envious?
Via Dolorosa. This was the path of sorrow that that Jesus walked in Jerusalem. It could also signify Dio trying to make Jonathan's life sorrowful.
Rhinoceros Beetle. (Not quite sure what this one means)
Singularity Point. This references things coming together. It might reference things coming to a head with Jonathan, where Jonathan discovered Dio's plot.
Giotto. This man was a painter. His most promenent painting is of the The life of the Virgin Mary and The Life of Christ. This could reference him becoming something new. A rebirth as something more than human.
Angel. This obviously means the statue of an angel that stabbed Dio in the burning mansion.
Hydrangea. It is a word derived from Greek and means ‘water vessel’. Possible reference to the ship and/or his coffin where he and Jonathan became one person.
Rhinoceros Beetle. I do not know this one either. It is possible that they are used to refer to the Joestars.
Singularity Point. This is things coming to a head again and may mean DIO's defeat at the hands of Jotaro.
Secret Emperor. This is reference to not something he has done, but will do. Pucci will achieve heaven and become a King, and DIO will become the Secret Emperor, which also signifies that he is living on through Pucci as a part of his soul, or maybe even as the stand Made in Heaven.
By the sounds of the Diary, DIO was ALWAYS supposed to die and be reborn as the Green Baby. "What is most necessary is "courage"; I must have the courage to destroy my Stand momentarily." As we all know, destroying your stand equals death since it is your soul. But he said as it is destroyed, it will absorb the souls of the 36 and give birth to something new.
As it disintegrates, my Stand will absorb the souls of the 36 sinners and will give birth to something utterly new. Whatever is born will "awaken". It will show interest in the 14 words that my trusted friend will utter... My friend will trust me and I will become his "friend" Here, the wording is precarious. DIO at first speaks of the Green Baby in third person, as if it's someone else. But after it hears the words that his friend would utter, DIO refers to HIMSELF. He says that his friend would trust him and he would become his "Friend". The quotes signify that he doesn't mean a literal friend, but something similar. Perhaps he means "Stand" since Kakyoin's stand was considered his imaginary friend in his early years. And this keeps with the idea that the Green Baby merged with the stand. This means that The Green Baby is DIO. DIO is C-Moon, and C-Moon evolves into Made in Heaven. Thus, DIO is reincarnated as Made in Heaven. And yes, it would be even better if Jonathan really was Star Platinum. Jonathan versus Dio all over again, and just as Dio said before "You can never beat me, JoJo!"
Also, they both have worn feathers around their necks.
...That's enough for me!
Also, Beware of Stone Ocean Spoilers below... and Steel Ball Run Spoilers...
We all know that THE WORLD OVER HEAVEN exists in the non-canon games... but in canon, the only Heaven Ascended stand to exist is Made in Heaven. And it required a lot of stuff from DIO. My question is simple, is the only Heaven Ascended stand canonically possible to obtain Made in Heaven? I was just thinking about it all...
What you need is my Stand "The World".
"What you can find beyond the powers of my Stand is where you need to go in order to find Heaven. What you need is a trustworthy friend. He must be someone capable of controlling his own desires. He must be someone who is not interested in political power, fame, wealth, or sexual desire, and who chooses the will of God before the law of humans.
Will I, DIO, be able to meet someone like this one day?
What I also need is the lives of more than 36 humans who have sinned, because those who have sinned harbor a strong power within.
There are 14 phrases that one must keep in mind:
Spiral staircase
Rhinoceros beetle
Desolation Row
Fig tart
Rhinoceros beetle
Via Dolorosa
Rhinoceros beetle
Singularity Point
Giotto
Angel
Hydrangea
Rhinoceros beetle
Singularity point
Secret emperor
I'll engrave these words onto my Stand so I won't forget them. What is most necessary is "courage"; I must have the courage to destroy my Stand momentarily. As it disintegrates, my Stand will absorb the souls of the 36 sinners and will give birth to something utterly new.
Whatever is born will "awaken". It will show interest in the 14 words that my trusted friend will utter... My friend will trust me and I will become his "friend".
Lastly, I need an appropriate location. North latitude, 28 degrees, 24 minutes, West longitude 80 degrees, 36 minutes...
Go there and wait for the New Moon...
That's when Heaven will come."
See, as I look at this and consider it all, it seems like DIO was going for MiH all this time. MiH is the Canon "THE WORLD OVER HEAVEN" because it is what DIO was going for all along. He needed a friend who was pure hearted (Pucci), he then needed to engrave the 14 phrases onto his stand (or soul) so he wouldn't forget them (After his death) and then he needed the souls of 36 sinners. After he found them he would have to destroy his stand (Essentially committing suicide) and then his stand would absorb the souls and give birth to something new (Green Baby, which is DIO's spiritual reincarnation of a sort) which Pucci would then utter the 14 phrases that DIO had written on his soul (I assume to bring DIO back to awareness inside of his clone). The Green Baby would then fuse with Pucci and his stand Whitesnake to become C-Moon. C-Moon had gravity as an ability, but also, it could effect time (Like THE WORLD) but Pucci couldn't control it (Possbly referencing DIO living on inside of C-Moon). After merging with Pucci, they would go to the location spoken in the journal (Cape Canaveral) and wait for the new moon. Once all the conditions are met, Made in Heaven is born. Pucci even displays some of DIO's attack patterns, such as using time to his advantage to throw knives. Pucci became DIO's reincarnation... or maybe a better idea would be assuming that Pucci and DIO became the Gogeta of JJBA. This means, in my opinion, that THE WORLD OVER HEAVEN is impossible and would never have ever happened. What happened in Stone Ocean was how DIO planned it all along. In the end SDC, DIO died. But this was only a momentary hitch in his plan as the results were the same. He was reborn as Green Baby and then fused with his friend to become his "Friend". What happened is exactly as it should have happened, and it has me convinced that the only heaven ascended stand is Made in Heaven, and no other stand can become one, because it requires THE WORLD and then THE WORLD would eventually fuse with the stand of his "Friend" and then evolve into Made in Heaven. Made in Heaven IS THE WORLD OVER HEAVEN. Always was, and always will be. EOH was a fun game, and while the story is a part of an official JoJo story, Araki's original intent was that TWOH would actually be MiH and that it always would be, and never could, become anything else...
This is all just my opinion of course...
Also, as a lat thing to mention. I personally believe that Made in Heaven and the Infinite Rotation from JoJo part 7 are connected. Both cause things to spin out of control at an infinite rate, cause things to get old, require horse legs, and have to do with gravity (Being said to pass through dimensional barriers and even into stopped time as spoken by Alt Diego who witnessed Tusk 4 it move in his time stop.) But that's just a theory... A JOJO THEOR... Nah, I just can't steal it.
Thanks for reading this far! I hope it was to your liking! I await the new moon-- I mean, your comments!
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