Was thinking of Kamen Rider too
Okay but where's the thumbs
Gilgamesh but offbrand
Nice Nice Nice
Setting 2FA now
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As for why I brought up Karna:
Having stepped so far into the realm of Gods,[14] Karna boasts great martial prowess.[4] Karna is extremely confident in his abilities, and claims he'd have no trouble in fighting both Siegfried and Jeanne d'Arc simultaneously. He speaks not out of haughtiness or arrogance, because to him, it is a simple truth that he cannot be defeated.[13] Karna's combat strength is equal to that of multiple first-class servants working together. Whereas it took a team comprised of Mordred, Sieg, Chiron, Jeanne d'Arc and Astolfo perfectly following a coordinated tactic to defeat Avicebron's Adam, it is noted that Karna or Achilles should be able to face a giant such as this head-on and achieve victory with ease
Vlad III in his Legend of Dracula form was also strong enough to punch Karna, sending him flying into a wall. Although the damage of his punch was insignificant to Karna thanks to his armor, he was surprised at how he had managed to overpower him with just his overwhelming physical strength alone.[16]
@Peanut1allergie I'm normally on the dragonball wiki, which Im a thread op for, though I occasionally pop by this wiki from time to time,
He was, still though, he was outmatched by him
Also, before you mention lancer of red dodging the spikes:
Take a look at who Vlad was fighting
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lancer_of_Red_(Karna)?so=search
My votes going to lancer as there are more situations and scenarios in which he wins, if Jotaro doesn't finish the fight as quickly as possible, then he's getting dura negged by an un-dodgeable spike, or is getting danmaku'ed off the start by nearly omnidirectional stakes, if he doesn't lead with timestop, same result, his only wincon other than a rage amp is him opening with a timestop before Lancer can launch a spike danmaku, and finishing him within the duration of the timestop
Additionally, Vlad's main ability that he has access to, can outrange Jotaro as it's an ability rather than innate range, his ability allows him to designate an area as his domain, from which he can attack anywhere in that domain, to which he could designate the entire void
Anyways, any arguments in favor of Jotaro clearing in one time stop?
Also, to further clear up misunderstandings:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Standard_Battle_Assumptions
Additionally neutral territory, both have the full range of their abilities that are in character, before you try and talk out of this one, stats are still equalized
But fine, assume they are in an indestructible void, with everything needed for life, and stop derailing from the fight
No it's not, and typically equalization scales down
That's the assumption, does either have a planetary feat off speed? no, so thats not a factor here
"and unlike a stand, he must obey the laws of natural physics, and would most definitely blow up the earth with one single attack lol"
When has this ever been an issue in any anime? your point is to apply real world physics to a verse that doesn't operate under them
Note that I don't think that Vlad can see SP without Servant Physiology
So he'd likely avoid the initial attacks, pull out a time stop, and pummel Vlad for a bit, if Vlad lives through that he realizes he's in a tough spot and puts a stake through Jotaro's heart