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  • Scenario: Final fight with boss, but in this time, there is no Chariot Requiem and GER.

    So, how gang can beat the boss? Any ideas?

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    • They can’t

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    • Just call up jotaro, its not that hard.

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    • Mista and Narancia have range stands and could rain attacks on Diavolo. Diavolo’s time erasure allows him to make quick work in one on one fights but a fight like this wouldn’t work. He would have to be stealthy and take them out one by one. Even if they all teamed up on him he’d still be able to avoid the attacks easily with time erasure but attacking back would be difficult. I dont really know...it would be a long dragged out fight and would require some outsmarting

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    • Realistically, without the Arrow, Diavolo would've fucked off after killing Polnareff and told everyone in Passione to get Bucciarati's gang. The gang is still about 700 people strong and who knows how many Stand Users there are.

      Zucchero could've killed the whole gang if only he didn't plan on using them as leverage. Any Stand User with potential for ambush can kill someone from the group then retreat.

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    • That is true..

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    • I don't think they can...

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    • Mudekino Sutā Purachina De Nandoka Shitekutasaiyo!!

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    • OOF 100

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    • Honestly, I don't think it's possible. If you're considering who's even alive by the final battle than the only combat based stand (Sex Pistols) would easily be beaten by Epitaph. Without GER and SCR, Team Bucciarati would've been defeated.

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    • Well, no arrow means Naranica and Bruno still up, so that is that.

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    • Yeah, but Diavolo can easily evade Aerosmith and Sex Pistols. We’ve already seen Diavolo beat Bruno and he already cut Giorno arm of sooo

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    • If Giorno managed to somehow get a hit in on Diavolo he might've been able to use the life-energy thing to make Diavolo think he had skipped time while his body sat on the floor. Dunno how Giorno would be able to hit Diavolo though.

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    • True. Giorno also never uses that move again though. Bruno was able to get up after that hit so it wouldn’t be too much of a problem for him either. Also it would probably never hit.

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    • Nabukun wrote:
       The gang is still about 700 people strong and who knows how many Stand Users there are.


      You mean the same gang that was forced to use it's most dangerous stand user, Cioccolata, exactly because Diavolo had no other option? If Diavolo had any other powerful stand users he would have used them instead of the guy that could have potentially killed everyone in Rome, including Diavolo himself. Hell, La Squadra WAS Passione's hitman squad, after they left, they didn't have any dedicated stand assassins in their group outside of the Elite Guard.

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    • They wouldn't. GER is essentially the same as any asspull "Deus Ex Machina" in other mediums of fiction, it's just that it got a conveniently overpowered ability to quite literally undo the actions of other characters. It's basically a poetic representation of the fact that Araki had given up on being creative with the abilities they had in the first place, many of which he had forgotten, and just gave the protagonist the power of God to end the fight.

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    • Barack Obeezy wrote: They wouldn't. GER is essentially the same as any asspull "Deus Ex Machina" in other mediums of fiction, it's just that it got a conveniently overpowered ability to quite literally undo the actions of other characters. It's basically a poetic representation of the fact that Araki had given up on being creative with the abilities they had in the first place, many of which he had forgotten, and just gave the protagonist the power of God to end the fight.

      Exactly.

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    • Barack Obeezy wrote:
      They wouldn't. GER is essentially the same as any asspull "Deus Ex Machina" in other mediums of fiction, it's just that it got a conveniently overpowered ability to quite literally undo the actions of other characters. It's basically a poetic representation of the fact that Araki had given up on being creative with the abilities they had in the first place, many of which he had forgotten, and just gave the protagonist the power of God to end the fight.

      This is factually incorrect, the arrow is a Macguffin not a Dues ex machina, a Dues ex machina is when something completely previously unexplained suddenly intervenes and solves the plot. The secret of the arrow was presented as something that can defeat the boss very well, while the exact way it would do that is unspecified, it is presented as such.

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    • CrimsonDiavolo wrote:
      Mista and Narancia have range stands and could rain attacks on Diavolo. Diavolo’s time erasure allows him to make quick work in one on one fights but a fight like this wouldn’t work. He would have to be stealthy and take them out one by one. Even if they all teamed up on him he’d still be able to avoid the attacks easily with time erasure but attacking back would be difficult. I dont really know...it would be a long dragged out fight and would require some outsmarting

      They could exploit diavolo's awarness and overwhelm him to the point where time skip runs out

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    • CrimsonDiavolo wrote:
      True. Giorno also never uses that move again though. Bruno was able to get up after that hit so it wouldn’t be too much of a problem for him either. Also it would probably never hit.

      He might still be using it, but neither DP nor Araki thought it was worth it to show the enemy's PoV in each use

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    • King Crimson can only skip and see 10 seconds into the future



      Based on your typical JoJo thinking (and what we see Bucciarati did during his fight with him), the basically has to plan their moves 11 seconds (or more) into the future since im pretty sure King Crims9n has a cooldown

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    • Seventy96 wrote:
      Scenario: Final fight with boss, but in this time, there is no Chariot Requiem and GER.

      So, how gang can beat the boss? Any ideas?

      ricochet ? live giver?

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    • they has the piano remember?

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    • Easy

      Giorno and Diavolo have the same type of stand

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    • Shawnfubuki wrote:
      If Giorno managed to somehow get a hit in on Diavolo he might've been able to use the life-energy thing to make Diavolo think he had skipped time while his body sat on the floor. Dunno how Giorno would be able to hit Diavolo though.

      he run to the diavolo 

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    • Asswipes wrote:
      Nabukun wrote:
       The gang is still about 700 people strong and who knows how many Stand Users there are.
      You mean the same gang that was forced to use it's most dangerous stand user, Cioccolata, exactly because Diavolo had no other option? If Diavolo had any other powerful stand users he would have used them instead of the guy that could have potentially killed everyone in Rome, including Diavolo himself. Hell, La Squadra WAS Passione's hitman squad, after they left, they didn't have any dedicated stand assassins in their group outside of the Elite Guard.

      Now that you mention this, La Squadra most prob had informations on all of the members of Passione (excluding the boss of course, the Elite Guard and "The worst piece of shit on the face of the earte". And Diavolo had information on everyone! Considering he thinks Cioccolata and Secco and the worst existing life forms on the face of earth, I assume he would use someone else, not those psychopats. Also, Carne, he literally told Carne to get himself killed and activate his stand, which is by anymeans, invincible, he literally did that! Anyway. Nabukun's "theory"/concept in a way could work, but think about it, Bruno's gang know knows the bosses' true identity, he still has Doppio, but at some point they would figure this out, and the members of Passione would be more attracted defeating, or atleast fight the boss

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    • What if La Squadra wasn't killed and instead they managed to team up with them? And maybe Squalo and Tiziano end up defecting too, and perhaps if Fugo manages to come help them at the last minute. Perhaps with such a large amount of stand users Diavolo would have to contend with, he would then be defeated without Requiem. Although he won't be getting a never ending death loop so it's more of a mercy in this scenario.

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    • Diavolo wouldn’t be stupid enough to stay there, though. He would have fled

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