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  • (spoilers: I'm gonna be name-dropping some Stands and Stand abilities from Part 6-7)

    No, there are no loopholes. No hidden tactics, technicalities or rules regarding Requiem that you can exploit. Aside from the non-canon The World Over Heaven, Gold Experience Requiem is the strongest Stand in the entire series, beating out Tusk ACT 4, D4C:LT, Bohemian Rhapsody, Made in Heaven, you name it. Here's why:

    Gold Experience Requiem's ability isn't time reversal. It's not attack-based, it doesn't require conscious thought, and you can be damn sure there's no way to blitz it. It's nullification, quite simply. If something happens that Giorno wouldn't want to happen, Requiem says "no" and it doesn't happen. If you use your Stand ability to try and circumvent its power, say if Rohan tried to make himself immune to it or if Bohemian Rhapsody tried to summon a character who could defeat it, it won't work. You can stop time all you want, you can steal as many Stands as you want, you can reset the universe as many times as you want; nothing will ever work, period. Johnny activates ACT 4? No, he didn't. Johnny never even got on his horse and the Infinite Spin was never channeled. Valentine tries to send away Giorno's attacks? Nope, Requiem steps in and says he never got the Corpse Parts in the first place. There is no 'time limit' as to how far back its nullification can go, hell it's shown that it can even reset life and death itself. Giorno could just say that the action of you living never happened, which is literally what he does to Diavolo. The following is a list of bulletpoints. This is my evidence.

    Point one: Requiem, and by extension its ability, Return to Zero, transcend time itself and will continue to exist and take effect in a pocket where time does not (i.e King Crimson). It's shown in the Risotto vs. Doppio fight that nothing except Diavolo exists in erased time, meaning physical objects become intangible if they are fated to move in that duration. On top of that, Requiem outright contradicts Epitaph's prediction, meaning that it isn't bound to fate itself, unlike Made in Heaven. All this points towards the fact that Requiem is not 'wrangled' by any higher power, not time, space, fate or anything of the sort.

    Now, for point two: the infinite death loop does not require that Giorno kill the target for it to take effect. Remember, Trish says that she can still sense Diavolo long after he was put into his death loop, and it's never shown that Requiem's blows were particularly lethal. Going by how Gold Experience's original ability required physical contact with a target to function, we can deduce that the only thing required to place a target in a death loop is simply striking them. This is confirmed in its stat page. Avert your eyes to the following, ladies and gentlemen:

    G.E.R.







    So, how exactly does it do such a thing? If Trish could still sense Diavolo, then that means he couldn't have been physically transported anywhere. That's where another teeny-tiny detail comes into play: Gold Experience Requiem creates a fucking pocket dimension to inflict eternal suffering upon you. The deaths Diavolo experienced were clearly 'fake', as all of them were rigged in order to ensure he would die, meaning that it wasn't just sending him on a cross-country trip into convenient situations where he'd just happen to die. He couldn't summon King Crimson to punch away incoming traffic or erase time to make himself invulnerable briefly, which, on top of that means that it disarms the target of any abilities that could potentially enable them to escape the death loop. Yeah, you won't be getting out anytime soon.

    Lastly, point numero tres, and arguably the most absurd implication that Requiem's power has to offer: a lot of things constitute actions. Eating, walking, seeing, breathing, and even thinking. I've pondered over what Requiem meant when it said that even Giorno didn't know the full extent of its power. Action nullification is pretty simple, isn't it? Something happens, except it doesn't. And that's when it hit me: it's not just that. The act of existing is an action. That's right, I believe that Gold Experience Requiem has the power to erase you from fucking existence. Or, if it wants to, it could just nullify every action you've ever done in your life, every thought you've ever thought, every influence you've had on another person's life. And then, to make sure those actions will never happen ever again, all it has to do is kill you. No, this isn't a stretch. By sheer virtue of a technicality, Gold Experience Requiem quite possibly may have the power to remove anything Giorno wouldn't want from this world. It's just unfortunate that we'll never get to see it again.

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    • You have many great points in this piece my friend. It's very convincing. I believe that we have found one of the most powerful anime/manga characters of all time. Watchmojo may need to update their list now considering just how broken this stand is.

      I do have one question though: How do you know that Gold Experience Requiem creates a pocket dimention for those who are in an infinite death loop? I don't believe it was ever addressed in the manga so I am just curious on how this works. 

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    • The ability of GER is so absurd. I cannot stress enough how much I hate this. At least for Jotaro, who has the biggest ass-pull abilities, has some kind of weakness. Then there is Giorno, who cannot be beaten whatsoever. The idea of the protagonist so powerful that they become a literal god always make me want to roll my eyeballs. I just hate OP protagonist.

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    • Hoang V Ho wrote: The ability of GER is so absurd. I cannot stress enough how much I hate this. At least for Jotaro, who has the biggest ass-pull abilities, has some kind of weakness. Then there is Giorno, who cannot be beaten whatsoever. The idea of the protagonist so powerful that they become a literal god always make me want to roll my eyeballs. I just hate OP protagonist.

      He only became so powerful at the end.

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    • Under certain circumstances Death Thirteen could defeat Girno, but yeah GER is ridiculously strong.

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    • Also Giorno could theoretically halt the aging process. Aging is an action, he could just revert the action of aging past his age to zero, and never age or die. 

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    • ArrowheadStands wrote:
      You have many great points in this piece my friend. It's very convincing. I believe that we have found one of the most powerful anime/manga characters of all time. Watchmojo may need to update their list now considering just how broken this stand is.

      I do have one question though: How do you know that Gold Experience Requiem creates a pocket dimention for those who are in an infinite death loop? I don't believe it was ever addressed in the manga so I am just curious on how this works. 

      It was never adressed, no. I found a different translation of the stat page that says that GER pulls the target into another realm to repeatedly kill them, but I can't ascertain the validity of it. My main reason for believing this is that Diavolo would have to remain in his current location for Trish to continue to be able to sense him, but also constantly be stuck in the completely real border between life and death. It's not an illusion, as Requiem's stat page states that it does, quite literally, force the target into a death loop, but it doesn't seem to physically move them into life-or-death situations, only create those situations for them to experience. That is why it is my belief that Requiem only opens up a pocket in reality and creates scenarios that kill Diavolo, then proceeds to 'reset' his death and continue the cycle.

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    • Vista9478 wrote:
      Under certain circumstances Death Thirteen could defeat Girno, but yeah GER is ridiculously strong.

      It could not. Being a sentient Stand that can act without Giorno's direct input (as shown when it protected him from Diavolo, despite the fact that Giorno was still affected by King Crimson's time-erasure) on top of the fact that it was able to invade Diavolo's time-erase space, it could probably invade Death Thirteen's dream world as well.

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    • Infant's Isopod wrote:
      Vista9478 wrote:
      Under certain circumstances Death Thirteen could defeat Girno, but yeah GER is ridiculously strong.
      It could not. Being a sentient Stand that can act without Giorno's direct input (as shown when it protected him from Diavolo, despite the fact that Giorno was still affected by King Crimson's time-erasure) on top of the fact that it was able to invade Diavolo's time-erase space, it could probably invade Death Thirteen's dream world as well.

      the only way to have your stand in the dream world is by going to sleep with your stand activated but even then i think GER can revert it where they aren't sleeping and GER just kills the stand user

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    • Killerjack12346 wrote:

      the only way to have your stand in the dream world is by going to sleep with your stand activated but even then i think GER can revert it where they aren't sleeping and GER just kills the stand user

      thats like saying GER can't invade Time erasure because only king crimson can move in erased time. Anyway I thought about it alot and the only stand that would manage to "kill" GER would probably be Rolling Stones. Since it is the only thing in JoJo that instantly kills someone and is also controlled by fate.

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    • I think GER can be countered by someone who can negate abilities, such as Osamu Dazai from Bungou Stray Dogs. If you negate GER’s power and kill Giorno, GER will disappear like any other Stand, and will not be able to revert Giorno’s death.

      Also, GER can be defeated by someone with a more advanced reality-warping power. It’s the same as having an immensely strong person. This person will seem invincible in comparison to a normal human, but he/she can still be defeated by someone stronger. It happens all the time in comics and in many works of fiction. The main reason Giorno is OP is because he is the only one with reality-warping powers in JoJo. The World Over Heaven is a great example, even if he’s not canon.

      So he is not truly unbeatable, but you need very specific conditions to defeat him. Currently, I don’t think anyone in JoJo could defeat him, because nobody has the means to. The only possible challenger would be Chariot Requiem, but it’s not available anymore, is it? Notorious B.I.G and Ultimate Kars could possibly stalemate him, though, as they can’t kill him, but cannot die either, so they won’t activate the death loop.

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    • In general, when reality-warpers fight against other reality-warpers, rules of abilities get thrown out the window and it purely becomes a battle of who's strongest, aka who has the best feats. Because warping reality causes all the rules to change anyway.

      This is why GER is a problem child for versus fights. We only ever see it used like twice, and it's left deliberately ambiguous what its limits are.

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    • guys gers ability is fate maniputaion thats how he makes things not happen thats how he makes the infinte death loop but since tusk defies fate  and d4c cant be affected by anyone the only reason ger is so op its cause no one can just affect him at a fundimental level its cause his fate manipulation is only affected by things that can break reality so for tusk. johnny would be affected but tusk wouldnt. d4c could just say no im not coming out of lovetrain also the thing that is weird is return to zero is a passive ability so if you can just get past that ger is only as dangerous as made in heaven also made in heaven if charged could take giorno out of reality. also keep in mind we dont know alot of what tusk can do

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    • also yes if death 13 gets giorno that would be clean

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    • it actually doesn't change fate, Diavolo's epitpah is correct when it shows King Crimson killing Giorno.

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    • he did that before ger came out

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    • GER's ability isn't that he controls fate, it's just that he resets any action to a point where it never occured, the infinite death loop is created by Diavolo's death being reset every time it occurs. Tusk doesn't defy fate, it controls gravity, which wouldn't help defend against GER. And yeah GER couldn't break Love Train, but it could certainly destroy Valentine and D4C, even if Love Train is active.

      Nothing in canon will ever be able to beat GER, because any action that tries to affect it will be reset back to zero, and all attempts to beat GER will include an action at somepoint. Death 13 definitely can't beat it since "pulling someone into the dream world" is an action that can be undone, and GER, being a sentient stand, will do so automatically.

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    • "The strength of an attackers will and actions will be reverted to zero.

      The key word here is "attacker". GER will only activate its ability against actions taken directly against Giorno/GER or with the intent of affecting Giorno/GER directly.

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    • um yeah thats it thats why ger wouldnt affect love train one lovetrain is defensive also i am pretty sure that ger sending diavolo into infinte death is fate manipulation also yes if death 13 put giorno in a dream ger cant do anything

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    • also tusk is weird cause its still funchinal when the user is dead so its kinda weird so just my opinion johnny would be affected but tusk wouldnt also if ger tries to punch tusk hed die cuase the only thing that can reset spin is spin so ger could kill tusk just not directly

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    • Diavolo's death loop isn't fate manipulation, GER just resets his death to zero everytime he dies. Also the action of pulling someone into a dream can be undone, and GER can 100% reset the action of activating the infinite rotation.

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    • eh well we dont know if ger could do that. but going of what we know the only thing to reset spin is spin and giorno has  to go to sleep for death 13 too actiavate and i doubt that ger is active while giorno is sleeping also death 13 is also passive so no he didnt attack giorno so return to zero cant activate also we dont know alot about tusk or ger so we well never know the. only new thing we know about tusk is that it persised after death of the user also after that in a interview after stone ocean he said that diavolo is still in a loop so yeah

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    • GER is sentient, freaking Giorno doesn't even activate rtz which means GER is activates on its own. Guys, think about it, if someone acidentally shot Giorno with a boozaka, wouldn't GER use rtz on it? Like serious? GER can't se rtz just because the person didn't have any ill intention? I'm pretty sure GER can use rtz regardless of an attack happened.

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    • Your not wrong  but you can't use your stand in death 13 and........with tusk...hmm

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