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DirePresent wrote: What about Bites The Dust?: Diavolo may even get to know Kira's identity with Epitaph (or even receive a warning like Rohan in some way). If by the time Killer Queen reaches him he time skips the explosion, BTD has been shown to be able to explode more than once (with Rohan) so I'd say it wouldn't leave Diavolo till he's dead for sure.
I'd also say any stand that would constantly attack him without giving him a moment to rest: picture Diavolo inside Strength: Strength starts to move everything around him (fan blades, cables, pipes, etc) inside the boat without even aiming. If he doesn't manage to find Forever quickly the moment he stops skipping time the attack won't cease. Moreover Diavolo may not even use Epitaph at the beginning of the fight: he's getting into an abandoned ship, he won't realize there's the probability of the whole ship being the stand.
I completely forgot about Bites The Dust. It'd be quite tricky to set up, but as far as I'm aware Diavolo would have no defense against an attack like that, so it could do the trick.
I doubt Strength would work though. Diavolo is constantly checking Epitaph, and combined with King Crimson's ability allowing him to ignore damage for a few seconds, he'd probably be able to find the Forever before things got too out of hand.
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Actually, I think Kira can use BTD at will and the "identity trigger" is an alternative automatic trigger. Whether if he can keep his memories in rewinded time is the difficult part.
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Brazencoronet17 wrote: Actually, I think Kira can use BTD at will and the "identity trigger" is an alternative automatic trigger. Whether if he can keep his memories in rewinded time is the difficult part.
Definitely not. If he could trigger it manually, he would've done so after Josuke found out his identity. The fact that Kira can't trigger it manually was one of the main reasons Hayato was able to exploit it.
I'm more curious as to what would happen if BtD sent someone back into erased time. Like, if King Crimson erases time from 7:05:01 to 7:05:11. What happens if BtD triggers at 8:05:02? It always sends its host back one hour, which would be 7:05:02, but that time no longer exists since King Crimson erased it.
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Kingasdfg wrote:
I doubt Strength would work though. Diavolo is constantly checking Epitaph, and combined with King Crimson's ability allowing him to ignore damage for a few seconds, he'd probably be able to find the Forever before things got too out of hand.
Yeah, perhaps it wasn't the best example: what I wanted was an example of a perpetually attacking stand: I'd have gone with Green Day, if Ciocolatta would get annoyed by Diavolo to the point of wanting him dead if he pulls the same helicopter attack Diavolo would be totally dead. Highway Star would also demolish Diavolo (a stand like that may even work against DIO given the right circumstances, that's why sometimes the idea of the "strongest, invincible stand" feels stupid to me with such a big variety of stand abilities).
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Kingasdfg wrote:
I'm more curious as to what would happen if BtD sent someone back into erased time. Like, if King Crimson erases time from 7:05:01 to 7:05:11. What happens if BtD triggers at 8:05:02? It always sends its host back one hour, which would be 7:05:02, but that time no longer exists since King Crimson erased it.
That's why I mentioned that Bites The Dust can explode several times: it won't rewind time till the target's dead, it may explode in skipped time, yet the moment Diavolo gets out of skipped time he has to rest till its next use: he'll be dead and the time rewind will happen.
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DirePresent wrote:
Kingasdfg wrote:
I'm more curious as to what would happen if BtD sent someone back into erased time. Like, if King Crimson erases time from 7:05:01 to 7:05:11. What happens if BtD triggers at 8:05:02? It always sends its host back one hour, which would be 7:05:02, but that time no longer exists since King Crimson erased it.
That's why I mentioned that Bites The Dust can explode several times: it won't rewind time till the target's dead, it may explode in skipped time, yet the moment Diavolo gets out of skipped time he has to rest till its next use: he'll be dead and the time rewind will happen.
No I mean on someone other than Diavolo. Erased time is universal. So if Diavolo erases time and BtD sends its host back into that period of erased time, what would happen?
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Kingasdfg wrote:
No I mean on someone other than Diavolo. Erased time is universal. So if Diavolo erases time and BtD sends its host back into that period of erased time, what would happen?
Oh I see... now that's more complex cause that person would die and the time rewind would be activated. As far as we know it's uncertain I guess? Perhaps BTD kills the person permanently and BTD gets deactivated right away.
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DirePresent wrote:
Kingasdfg wrote:
No I mean on someone other than Diavolo. Erased time is universal. So if Diavolo erases time and BtD sends its host back into that period of erased time, what would happen?
Oh I see... now that's more complex cause that person would die and the time rewind would be activated. As far as we know it's uncertain I guess? Perhaps BTD kills the person permanently and BTD gets deactivated right away.
I'm wondering if it could be used to stall BtD's trigger, but I guess it ultimately doesn't matter since it'll still end up going off anyway.
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