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  • I (anime only, who only read some about newest parts) prefer the plot in part 3. Why? Well, story in part 4 had the biggest potential, but in my opinion, Araki didn't it well (too much filler chapters/episodes)  In the other hand, Stardust Crusader has the most satisfying plot. Yes, is simple and stupid, but it fits  and has excelent final, that ends Stone Mask trilogy.

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    • Part 4's story has a pretty good second half (around the point Kira appears) 

      But the best is definitely gonna be Part 5. I'm not gonna spoil anything, but, uh... some really cool and interesting stuff happens.

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    • I consider the story of part 6 the best. The part itself has overall the most flaws, but the actual storyline and motivations for the villain are more compelling to me than any other part.

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    • Jorge Joestar has the best plot, change my mind

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    • Jorge Joestar isn't a part, and it's a huge jumbled mess of craziness.

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    • Part 1 is too simple, part 3 is the worst, as it is little more than your average Super Mario Bros game, part 2 is, in part, the simple "start weak, training arc, etc", predictable but good, part 4 has very disconnected parts, it can't even be called a plot, it's just few separate miniarcs with different plots, part 5 and 6 are the best, part 6 more than part 5 as it feels even more "real" and interesting. 

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    • Phantom Blood does not have a simple plot, it's just not as crazy as the rest. Battle Tendency is literally just a journey that jumps from location to location with no real knowledge of how they got there, and relies heavily on it's main character instead of any other good characters to choose from. Compare this to Stardust Crusaders, a journey that actively pits countless challenges and introduces stands to all members of the group, and saying Part 3 is bad is just lying.

      DIU is disconnected, but by far has one of the best settings, mostly because it's stationary compared to the rest and the anime only did it more justice. Vento Aureo's italian plot is just a mafia plot, but it's Jojo. You can expect whatever tropes Araki touches to take on some mutated but enjoyable form. Stone Ocean is probably the worst plot-wise, simply because it relies heavily on a huge ass-pull in order to keep the series going.

      Steel Ball Run is practically the best of all worlds. It has a setting that, unlike other ones, has changing and untamed environments meshed with small valley and colonial towns. We see desert, plains, forest, mountain ranges, snow, and possibly more I just forgot. Part 7's introduction to the corpse parts, the best main character, the best JoBro, the best main villian, and some of the best minor villians only help to create an even better plot. Some of Part 7's fights are the best in all of Jojo, including the stands as well.

      Jojolion is like DIU, but with more violence and equivalent exchange thrown in. Seeing Josuke's backstory unfold is interesting to say the least, and the way it progresses is great.

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    • I ment simpler, don't take it too literally

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    • All the parts have the best plot.Change my immovable and irrefutable mind

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    • HoRaOra9087 wrote:
      All the parts have the best plot.Change my immovable and irrefutable mind

      Phantom Blood. Bam, now only 7 parts do

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    • Stone Ocean. Bam, now only 6 parts do

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    • I think you hit the wrong key, your message should say 7.

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    • Excuse me? If you are joking, then it's a funny sarcastic joke. If you are not, I will gladly say why it's untrue.

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    • Stone Ocean is good :)

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    • Please start saying if you are being sarcastic or not, because I am genuinely worried.

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    • Serious

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    • First off, Stone Ocean is literally built upon an asspull. DIO was never shown to be compassionate (like, at ALL), and all of a sudden he wants to make the world a better place. Heaven is a randomly introduced and extremely alien idea that doesn't make sense in the context of Jojo. Jolyne is pretty boring. Pucci is a second best villian. The ending is really unenjoyable for a lot of fans. Do I say more?

      Steel Ball Run is the first part to have multiple conditions, and not be mostly based in a developed area. It traverses a continent like in Stardust Crusaders but with a more developed cast and some of the best minor villians to ever exist. The corpse parts make sense because unlike heaven, the parts can be compared something. Namely, stand arrows.

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    • Pucci believes DIO is a good person who wants to help the world, but he was obviously manipulated by DIO, and nothing else states DIO planned on helping the world. In fact, aiming for a stand as powerful as MiH seems very like him.

      I don't understand where you get the idea of heaven being an "alien" idea for JoJo's, stands and requiems were introduced in an even more sudden manner.

      Jolyne had a lively personality that made her entertaining as a protaganist, like Joseph.

      Imo the ending is good, but this I can understand, as it seems to screw with the main universe as a whole, (although when you look at it there's nothing showing it had any effect on any characters outside of Stone Ocean) and the deaths that take place in the final battle just... don't. Aside from the reset itself I haven't heard any complaints about the ending though, so if there's anything else you've heard people complain about it for do tell.

      No shade on SBR, I, like nearly everyone, prefer it to SO, but I'm not sure what you're trying to say about it. I'm not sure what you mean by multiple conditions, nor do I understand what your point about the corpse parts is. The mask, the red stone, the stand arrows, and the requiem arrow, essentially the Heaven or the corpse parts of the other parts, weren't comparisons to something else either. The corpse parts only have this trait as they appear in a new world, and are used for the purpose the arrows were in the main world.

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    • HA!!! So in the end i was right.All parts have the best plot

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    • That's where you are wrong. Not all the parts are equal like that. It just isn't.

      Stone Ocean is not a good plot, because once again, it's based entirely on a stupid asspull. Sure, nobody ever states it if I recall, but DIO clearly was trying to have good intention by resetting the universe. As it would let people know their fate, which would let people not be betrayed and lied to by fate. Which is not a DIO thing at all. Hell, DIO was nice to Pucci no less. And DIO was essentially using everyone for his own schemes. If DIO was using Pucci, Araki would of made it more obvious.

      DIU is a jumbled mess that couldn't decide where it wanted to go for the first half. By the time Kira had shown up, we had 3 potential main villians show up, those being Angelo, Keicho Nijimura, and especially Akira. Angelo and Keicho because they were both introduced as key enemy figures, and Akira especially because he did the exact same thing as DIO; he made stand users to fight the main characters while hiding himself and stopping those that try to reveal him.

      You guys forget about Phantom Blood, the part where everything is crazy, kind of crazy without any real mind put to it, and not as creative/crazy as other parts are.

      Battle Tendency is just Joseph flexing his bullshit abilities on everyone. Predicting what people say next is cool, but it was done just for looking cool and not for making sense. Joseph basically perfecting hamon just well enough to take down Esidisi (I don't count Wamuu and Kars since Joseph got Caesar's hamon), all while in less than a month is likely impossible.

      I can keep going on, but I won't because I feel like this proves it enough. The conversation goes nowhere where you just say "everything wins!".

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    • First paragraph:Heaven Ascension DIO

      Second paragraph:A slice of life story

      Third paragraph:Araki first profissional work

      Fourth paragraph:Joseph:master of strategies and wielder of naturally good Hamon

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    • What? Heaven Ascension DIO is non-canon and was done over a decade after the end of Part 6. DIU has no excuse for not deciding a villian that late on, even if it is a slice of life. It's still a Jojo part, and the rest were able to decide early on (with the exception of Part 8, which seems to have no villian. But at least they didn't juggle villians). Just because Phantom Blood is Araki's first "professional" work, doesn't mean it's automatically equal to the rest. Joseph being a master strategist doesn't put him above any other Jojo since it seems ALL of them can strategize really well. Which still doesn't explain his ability to predict lines just like that.

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    • I only have defense for one of those and that's Heaven ascension DIO

      The plan for Heaven involves a change to main person stand that is dependant on their wishes

      -Pucci wanted a stand that could show people their fates and make them accept what was predestined to them

      -DIO wanted control over everything

      Heaven Ascension DIO is a alternate version of DIO that was supervised by Araki,the writer of the story

      This doens't make him non-canon but at the same time it makes him a official alternate version of him that simply challenged a  alternative Joestar family

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    • OH MY GOD I SEE SO MUCH WRONG.

      Heavn isn't a plan to change a main person's stand to something they want. THAT IS REQUIEM. YOU HAVE THEM MIXED UP. Heaven is Made In Heaven. Dio's Diary vaguely says so. The wiki page literally says so. Heaven was never a Part 6 equivalent of Requiem. Literally never.

      And as for Heaven Ascension DIO...

      HA DIO = NOT CANON









      The reason why it's hugely regarded as non-canon is because Araki just didn't have anything to do with it. You say he did, but he didn't. You saying that was a first for me.

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    • Overheaven doesn't even follow JoJo's canon it's utter crap.


      I should specify that I was srs about Stone Ocean being good, but saying all parts had best plot was half joking about all the other parts (except Phantom Blood) being really good. Obviously SBR has the best plot.


      DIO was nice to Pucci because he was manilpulating him, and because Pucci revered him as the god he wasnted to be. In fact Araki does try to make it clear Pucci is being manipulated into evil, his whole theme is based on a "wolf in sheeps clothing;" he's a priest that wears priest colthing, but his stand, representing his soul, is Whitesnake, which is a band name ofc, but also refers to the idea of a snake (meaning the devil) colored white to make it seem pure, and has abilities directly inspired by the devil, that is manipulating people and their souls (through the discs) and creating illusions (using the acid). Besides, he's very clearly established before that DIO is the personification of evil itself, I doubt he even thought he had to make it more obvious than it is. MiH is used by Pucci to reset to where people know their fate, but it clearly isn't exclusively for that purpose, as killing the stand made it reset the world in a very fundamentally different way. (Also it's strong as hell even if you don't reset the world at all)


      DiU's plot is a mess, yeah.


      Battle Tendency had a pretty good plot, it just struggles from wanting Joseph to be way too much of a protaganist. However, the plot still makes sense. He beats ACDC by tricking him with sleight of hand tricks ACDC had never heard of. Actually he has to do the same for Wham and Cars; he doesn't get anything from Caesar except the nose ring. So same applies to Wham and the first fight with Cars. None of the three fights show a mastering of hamon necessarily, he just can keep the breathing going in battle. All he ever does is send it through ropes or strings or things that wouldn't be that difficult for him before training were he not exhausted. And rthen the final Cars fight he of course wasn't even what defeated Cars.

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    • @zodazzle lol chill

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    • Stop justifying, you can't manipulate people's opinion. If it triggers you then you rather deal with or forget about it. 

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    • I just enjoy them all for different reasons. I believe that either part 4 or part 5 is the best. I have only watched the anime so I might find the other parts better if I decide to read the manga.

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    • @zodazzle let people have opinions lmao

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    • Person: has an opinion 

      Zodazzle: NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

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    • I really like the part 7 plot my problem is that some of the stands just sucked, they were cool looking but fighting wise they were bad and weren't interesting to read. and the D4C arc was just so confusing and hard to focus on that i felt like skipping it also D4C was so op which made me think the whole time "valentine could just end this at any point"

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    • Oh you can have an opinion on your favorite part. I'm just saying Steel Ball Run's plot is objectively the best or in the top three. This thread title doesn't say "Which part is your favorite?", does it? I don't understand why people are under the impression that I'm being tyrannical and manipulating their opinions like some Russian war propaganda. If anything I feel like I just look like I have a serious grip on the bible that is Steel Ball Run.

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    • @Zodazzle But... You don't have monopol on truth; you can't decide, what is good or bad.

      BTW: Best = your favorite

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    • I'd like everyone to take it down a notch before it escalates.

      @Zodazzle, you've made your opinions known, please do not act as if yours were better.

      @everyone else, please refrain from too much sarcasm. It makes the interactions toxic.

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    • All things considered I think SBR has the best plot but Jojolion's plot is really good granted it dosen't fall flat by the end.

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    • I'd say Part 7, but I don't want to agree with Zodazzle or be associated with him in any conceivable way.

      So I guess second best written-wise is Part 5, which also has the best anime adaptation as they improved and added a bunch of stuff that fleshes out the story more. Even though Part 4 is my favorite I'm willing to admit it's plot is all over the place and wildly inconsistent, but the dialogue, world building, and anything to do with characters are all amazing. I'd share my opinion on Part 6 or talk about the technical aspect (plot, dialogue, world building, characters), but , well... ya' know.

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    • 🤨 

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    • Zodazzle was just trying to discuss what part is objectively better,yes,he don't owns the truth,yes,for you the best part is your favorite,but (for me at least) he is certainly not impose his opinion to anyone.

      And thats what a critic is,trying to expose how that work made you feel when consuming it,so try to explain,it does not matter if people have other opinion than yours,explain why that part was so great to you (i personally don't have much to say,im new to the jojo community and just finished part 2 today).

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    • Painn777 wrote:
      Zodazzle was just trying to discuss what part is objectively better,yes,he don't owns the truth,yes,for you the best part is your favorite,but (for me at least) he is certainly not impose his opinion to anyone.

      And thats what a critic is,trying to expose how that work made you feel when consuming it,so try to explain,it does not matter if people have other opinion than yours,explain why that part was so great to you (i personally don't have much to say,im new to the jojo community and just finished part 2 today).

      I was mostly joking. I was trying to say that his tardrage was so bad it actively made me want to separate myself so far to the point to where it ruined my enjoyment of something I love. In actuality it just reminded me some people need to take their medication before they try to argue with people online.

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    • I would love to get a notification to this thread because people are actually discussing the topic and not just discussing about me because I discussed too hard.

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